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Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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> “I thought Sci-Hub would become legal in a couple of years,” she said. “When the laws are obviously in the way of scientific development, they should be canceled.”

Pretty much this.

Elbakyan: builds library of Alexandria.

Elsevier et al.: tries to burn it down.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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post #105

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The metaphor backfires because if everyone runs red lights they will collide with one another, as well as with those going through green lights.

> if everyone runs red lights they will collide with one another In the same way that if everyone runs green lights, they'll collide with one another? How do you go through intersections?

Red lights rarely exist in the middle of a road just to slow down traffic, they mainly exist at intersections to allow people on different roads to take turns. It's really not a useful metaphor in this context.

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Yeah I get that but the what is the upside to winning exactly? You continue doing exactly what you did? It just seems completely irrational

The upside of winning is that you'll never be banned in India, which is the same thing as saying you'll never be banned.

I wouldn't say never.

Given that it's only the High Court of Delhi so far, there's likely to be another fight in the Supreme Court of India after this.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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I don't believe you can publish on Sci-Hub, but you can join the open access movement by publishing your work on sites such as Arxiv where anyone can read your work. If every scientist published their work on open access platforms, Sci-Hub wouldn't need to exist in the first place.

Why do people not do that? As far as I know, publishing in Arxiv is as simple as uploading the PDF, so I'm wondering why scientists don't do that themselves by default. Does anyone know?

In medicine/public health/etc. there are two reasons:

1) medRxiv was relatively new, and while the COVID-19 pandemic was its moment, there are a lot of concerns about pre-peer review stuff, and the public, press, etc. not treating it with appropriate caution.

2) Some journals heavily penalize or won't consider preprints, and some of these journals are quite good. This has gotten a little pushback recently as well.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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I think persistence will win this one because the moral dilemma is pretty weak here. Unlike with the software and arts, we don’t need to seek a funding model for the researchers when we take their work for free. It’s my impression that it’s a matter of adaptation before the free access becomes the norm. Therefore technical help and civil disobedience should eventually do the job. In this case, we are stealing from th…

free is a flawed concept - energy and time went into publishing each paper meaning someone paid. If the authors want to give permission, then she ought to seek it for each paper she's put on her website or seek permission from whomever owns the copyright. Otherwise it's theft. And no amount of civil disobedience can justify theft.

Abusive copyright is a theft from the public. I shrug about violations to the property rights of the corrupt.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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I am confused. This is your tweet about the article [0] - it's from 18 hours ago. The last tweet from Alexandra [1] is from the 9th of May. Am I missing something? [0] https://mobile.twitter.com/lpfeed/status/1411543135944073217 [1] https://mobile.twitter.com/ringo_ring/status/139160709025538...

No. Our last tweets are not the ones I was referring to.

IT seems obtuse not to link directly and expect people to figure out what you are referring to. I suggest you resubmit your comment with additional context.

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#208

This is extremely infuriating. Alexandra Elbakyan has done a huge positive contribution to human civilization, even knowing that it was putting herself at personal risk. She's just 32 years old. How can we help her? Does she need money, public support, vpns in every country? Whatever she needs, mankind is indebted to her and we should help if we can. Anybody who has ever supported their research using Sci-Hub (or Lib…

>How can we help her? Does she need money, public support, vpns in every country? Whatever she needs, mankind is indebted to her and we should help if we can.

Pool money with everybody you know and hire a lobbyist.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

#209

Anyone remember Napster? There were extremely obscure musical recordings that were instantly found on Napster that are impossible to find even today. It took a long time for anyone to rebuild that data to the level of usefulness that Napster had. If Sci-Hub is forced to shut down due to legal pressure, technical problems, running out of money, or the founder losing interest, it would take a long time for anyone to du…

Isn’t there a torrent available? I thought I had heard that scihub is immortal because of torrented copies.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Anyone remember Napster? There were extremely obscure musical recordings that were instantly found on Napster that are impossible to find even today. It took a long time for anyone to rebuild that data to the level of usefulness that Napster had. If Sci-Hub is forced to shut down due to legal pressure, technical problems, running out of money, or the founder losing interest, it would take a long time for anyone to du…

Yes p2p really had the largest catalog and still surpasses what’s available on Spotify or Apple Music. You could get obscure live recordings, the smallest bands, everything was there. If you consider bootleg recordings, the volume of music produced is many times larger than what any one centralized service could offer.
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