How do I get the old style of tabs back? I need every vertical pixel I can get.
I also use https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix to tame the insane vertical (and horizontal!) padding. Might be worth checkout it out.
Firefox Release 89.0
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#202Here's how the new tab bar looks in Firefox on iPad: https://imgur.com/a/QUm3r1q
There is so much padding now, that the titles are shortened to a single character when you have more than a few tabs, despite the tab bar already being horizontally scrollable.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? It doesn't. Maybe small parts of it get tweaks here and there. But your argument about having to re-adjust every update is just dishonest.
If you use niche or power user features frequently, then it can feel like almost every single update is reworking or removing a feature you depend on. Firefox updates are a constant stream of "1% of users use this feature so it's fine to do X to it" but it turns out that a lot of people fall into a lot of those small buckets at once.
What features are you talking about?
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it really? I have so many tabs open at once, it's just a slight move to the right to close a tab. But then I usually close my tabs with Command+W anyways.
I am not sure what you are trying to say here. For me as a die-hard, old-school Macintosh user the irritation is just too much. This wasn't a problem when you could just hide the tab bar and use windows instead. But having loads of windows open, all with one tab AND the tab bar, that's ridiculous.
You must not have as many tabs open as I usually do or you're more of a mouse user than a keyboard user. If I ever do want to close a tab with my mouse, the tab width is so small, it's not that big of a deal to move my cursor over to the right instead of the left. But like I said, I don't ever do that, my hands are usually always on the keyboard, so Cmd-W is way faster.
Re: Firefox Release 89.0
#205I suspect that a large percentage of Firefox's remaining user base are power users - people who tend to value function over fluff. It seems odd to me that they'd alienate their current users like this. I've used Firefox for over 10 years, but I think I'll start using chromium until the next Firefox UI overhaul. The tab design is just unacceptably awful.
I've been using FF for 20 years. More if you count its previous incarnations. Not that it's a competition or anything.
Looking at the screenshots, UI changes seem mindful and subtle to me. They even removed some useless iconography.
Content aware tabs aren't such a bad idea and seem to be executed nicely. Having an option to remove the clutter would be nice, though.
I've been reading about people switching to Chromium due to UI changes for over a decade. Still doesn't make sense to me. I feel people just want to vent but I could be wrong and UI changes do have this powerful effect on some.
Still though, Gnome and FF making UI changes somehow generates tons of rage that I mostly ignore but sometimes find amusing.
Re: Firefox Release 89.0
#206Anyone remembers these old Win 95-era programs that faked tabs and tab panes by having a number of buttons in a row and switching the content of the pane below? The new tab bar certainly gives off these vibes. :/
Interestingly, they (or at least not all of them) didn't fake it - there's a style option on the tab control to turn tabs into push buttons. It looked exactly like the task bar - maybe the task bar was actually implemented using that control.
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#207I liked the new design but what always keeps me out of firefox is the performance. I dont know if its some UI trick but chrome just feels a lot faster no matter what the benchmarks says. (https://arewefastyet.com/)
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#208So happy to see "New Tab" is added to the context menu when right click on an open tab.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a Mac user and think Safari has the close tab button on the wrong side :)
Windows, the OS, introduced closing on the left. (Supposedly to evade lawsuit from Apple.) Closing on the right is the traditional way, from PARC onwards. On a Mac windows and everything else (eg Mac OS 9 palettes) has the close button on the right, as it should be.
I think you accidentally interchanged left and right
Re: Firefox Release 89.0
#210Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?
I don't like it. The tabs look like buttons and not tabs. It's such an unnecessary deviation from a standard tabbed interface look and feel that everyone is accustomed to. I'm not sure what their reasons are for experimenting with something new but I would be curious to know.
I'm using https://github.com/ShatteredIcicle/firefox-ui-regression-men... in my userChrome.css file to use more traditional looking tabs. I'm trying to figure out how to make the active tab background the same colour as the bar where the forward/backward buttons are so it integrates into that UI.