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Re: History of Techno

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I recently discovered Boris Brejcha and can't recommend him enough. He has a great live set at Grand Palaris that's phenomenal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqz8c4ZP3Wg.

I find live performances quite nostalgic for obvious (pandemic) reasons. Along those same lines, Fatboy Slim at BA i360 in Brighton UK is worth experiencing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvC05kXS9I.

Re: History of Techno

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I'm a little confused by the American focus of the article. Kraftwerk's Autobahne came out in 1974, and there was a well established electronic movement coming out of krautrock, which became techno. Americans were late to the scene.

Kraftwerk wasn't the first group/soloer doing electronic music.

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but if the line had no basis in reality, he would just sound like an idiot, so ...

He also claimed Dr Dre was locked up in his basement in another lyric, so I'm not sure truthfulness was top of his priority list.

Clearly being facetious there

By my own memory as a teenager growing up in the rave scene, electronic music was weird and unapproachable to pretty much everyone. Big Beat like The Crystal Method and Prodigy had made some waves, and of course there was Moby, but outside of my raver friends and a brief attempt to get eurodance (like Alice Deejay) on Top 40 radio by the local media conglomerates, "techno" was pretty niche.

I mean, in the early 2000s I saw Paul Oakenfold -- twice -- at small clubs, and it was easy to get into the front. I would write requests in big letters on my phone and see if I could get the DJ to play them. (Tiesto wasn't as approachable but that asshole would crank the speakers up well past their distortion point)

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Slam, Adam Beyer (Drumcode) and Chris Liebling (CLR) are all good places to start. They all have weekly radio stations. From there on you can follow an guest DJs who you like the style off. Also when did “techno” become an umbrella term again? I was possessed off enough when “EDM” was redefined as a specific genre (and such a lousy one at that).

Swedish techno... That brings me back. If you like Adam Beyer, check out Cari Lekebusch and Jasper Dahlback too. His style is a bit less minimal, but Boris Brejcha is absolutely sick.

+1 for Boris Brejcha

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White European here (Spain). Black people in the US invented basically the three modern music roots: - Blues/Rock - Techno - Rap The problem is rap had much better marketing in the US, ditto with rhythm and blues in the 90's.

Can’t forget jazz there either. And I’d argue that blues and rock are separate, but that most rock until late 90s was heavily influenced by blues. But that’s all just fun trying to draw lines where there isn’t a clear difference sometimes.

Well, blues is the son of jazz music :)

PD: I didn´t put Blues/Rock as separate entities, but two genres where late blues albums could be considered something as proto-rock. And ditto with jazz-swing-blues. It's like a continuum.

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Do you happen to know if the old version of "Ishkur's guide to electronic music" is still available somewhere? IIRC it was a flash site with mostly music bubbles. It opened me up to fringe music genre's like Italo, Acid Jazz and Ghetto Tech.

I believe it's here, but of course you need Flash http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ Another favorite is Ishkur's "trancecracker" comic, which you can find here: https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=245900

Heh... KLF worship

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Classic history tree of electronic music : http://music.ishkur.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26212706

The original Ishkur's Guide is one of those Flash projects now lost to time. This new one is OK, but doesn't come close to the original for me. I always loved electronic music, even as a kid. In the UK we regularly had tracks (trance especially) crossover into the charts. But before Ishkur's Guide I didn't really know what I was listening to. It opened up the door to a whole world of music for me.

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I believe it's here, but of course you need Flash http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ Another favorite is Ishkur's "trancecracker" comic, which you can find here: https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=245900

That comic is the funniest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. I was literally just making the argument with my friends who were going "oh, I wish Tiesto was still playing trance; he turned his back on the trance scene" to which I responded "Tiesto was never a trance DJ, he was a mainstage DJ. He's still a mainstage DJ, and you don't get on the mainstage playing trance anymore".

Actually, he definitely was a trance DJ. I remember when his first single was released. He understood how to make simple melodies with hooks which a lot of us respected. Over time, he learned how to make "epic" trance hooks that help pioneered the rise of the EDM genre.

Mainstage antics are part of performance. Check out every mainstream genre before EDM. Van Halen Jump is probably my fav example :)

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That comic is the funniest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. I was literally just making the argument with my friends who were going "oh, I wish Tiesto was still playing trance; he turned his back on the trance scene" to which I responded "Tiesto was never a trance DJ, he was a mainstage DJ. He's still a mainstage DJ, and you don't get on the mainstage playing trance anymore".

Actually, he definitely was a trance DJ. I remember when his first single was released. He understood how to make simple melodies with hooks which a lot of us respected. Over time, he learned how to make "epic" trance hooks that help pioneered the rise of the EDM genre. Mainstage antics are part of performance. Check out every mainstream genre before EDM. Van Halen Jump is probably my fav example :)

My point was that he played trance because that got you on the mainstage (particularly in 2000 era Netherlands), and as soon as other genres were played on the mainstage he switched.

There's plenty of even trance without mainstage antics.

I'm mainly being pithy more than anything else, lol.

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Slam, Adam Beyer (Drumcode) and Chris Liebling (CLR) are all good places to start. They all have weekly radio stations. From there on you can follow an guest DJs who you like the style off. Also when did “techno” become an umbrella term again? I was possessed off enough when “EDM” was redefined as a specific genre (and such a lousy one at that).

> Also when did “techno” become an umbrella term again? I would guess in the '90s, when there was a lot more crossover between electronic music and other genres. Rock and hiphop oriented stuff like the Prodigy and Chemical Brothers were topping the dance charts, and other more conventional techno like Aphex Twin and Underworld were getting decent media coverage as well. Plus movie soundtracks at the time tended to in…

Yeah, I was around then; buying those records, going to those clubs and in many cases partying with those DJs. But that was the end of “Techno” as a synonym for “electronic music. By then there was already numerous sub genres and many of them because music styles in their own right (like rock, metal, blues are all guitar music) with people identifying themselves as trance, house, hardcore et al clubbers rather than techno.

My comment was in regard to how the GP suggested that techno has since become another umbrella term again now. Or maybe I misunderstood their post?

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