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How on earth does google manage to still be one of the most valuable (in $$$) companies in the world with this kind of behavior. I just can't imagine treating my customers half as bad as the way google does and still continue to be in business. Abruptly dropping support for products[1], violating their user's privacy [2] , working with organizations accused of human rights violations. Each passing year it seems googl…
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> - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. I wouldn’t do this with Facebook. Creating a second account is against Facebook policy, and they may ban both accounts.
It seems like a risk with Google too. It's common to be logged into Google/Gmail with multiple Google accounts. Even with separate Google accounts, Google can tell they are related and could potentially ban them too. A quick web search came up with Google's "associated account ban": > "Associated account ban" means not just explicit account linkages, but also implicit ones, where a wife can be banned for the misbehav…
I'd extend this even further: never use a single account for more than one purpose. Create a separate account at the same company for the other purpose. Some examples: - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. - Nothing tied to your consumer accounts should be used for anything business related. - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should defin…
While I get what you are saying, this is sounding more and more like an abusive relationship. "Getting beaten by your husband? Try not being around him when he is drunk." At some point we have to face the reality that the tech ecosystem needs some serious fixing, for both consumers and developers.
Delete your accounts and shop elsewhere.
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> Creating a subsidiary business for every type of Google account you have would be quite expensive Costs roughly $1000/yr to run a properly sheltered LLC. Just saying, that’s a low barrier to overcome for any company turning modest revenue.
We have done this in past. At one point we had 4 LLCs with 4 adsense accounts each making $30K per day. There was nothing fishy here it was perfectly legal and 100% legitimate traffic. Over time we even split our large website into multiple domains under these 4 accounts to make them profitable. Google eventually banned all 4 over time without ever telling us why. We shut down out company eventually.
Evidently not. And sadly there’s no teacher to refer to, unless you can afford to shell some real cash.
Like any Google product, partnering with them is a major risk for your business continuity. I'd never combine Google Ads and Google Play, just like I wouldn't combine a Google-hosted email domain with a Play account. Hell, even a Youtube account that's shared with your personal email is a data risk.
I do wonder what happened to get the app flagged. Maybe someone found a way to use the app to automate their ad fraud (it's an IDE after all), and Google determined this app to be the culprit? Maybe one of the app's dependencies had a piece of malware added? Who knows at this point. Google's lack of transparency makes it impossible to build any sort of business on their products. I don't get why people still try to do so.
Still, about every 2 weeks, Google sends me an e-mail saying "my ad serving is limited" due to "suspicious activity". I do nothing. After a couple weeks, Google notifies me that my ad serving is "restored". Then after a couple weeks, again, I am informed that my ad serving is limited due to suspicious activity. Then they restore it back themselves. This goes in a loop. Whatever they are using to detect this stuff, I believe it is (intentionally or not) broken.
Always create new Google account for your new project. Use that account for related Google Cloud, GMail, Google Play and all the SSOs into third-party services like Github/Gitlab, cloud CI/CD, hosting and so on. Just add your personal account as a collaborator to those services for convenience.
It will take one minute and protect you from a ton of problems later.
Compartmentalize, people, compartmentalize!
I'd extend this even further: never use a single account for more than one purpose. Create a separate account at the same company for the other purpose. Some examples: - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. - Nothing tied to your consumer accounts should be used for anything business related. - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should defin…
> - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should definitely not be the same account. My Amazon account has been locked for a few days now because I tried to buy a friend a gift card, and I can't even access my AWS account at all. Thankfully all I have on there currently is some old backups in S3, but I previously used AWS for some projects and this could've been a fucking disaster. I tried to buy an Amazo…
Many attempts, calls, and hours later, I used my debit card from N26 and it finally went through.
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I'm not aware of any major business that publicizes this kind of information. Try going to your bank and ask them for details on how their anti-fraud system works. The problem here is this imperfect click fraud ban can ricochet into your app getting banned too.
But the bank will point to a specific transaction as the reason or a series of transactions to show a pattern. i.e., You've had 15 $9000 deposits over the last 15 weeks in what appears to be an attempt to avoid reporting to to the federal government.
Pointing out specific behavior is appropriate if you want people to change that behavior. But in such cases we don't want them to start working differently, we want to stop doing business with them. We don't want them to create a new company and try to do the same thing more carefully and keep within our detection limits, that's not a success, that would be a failure of our detection, we want to keep them and people like them out, preferably forever, and preferably with minimum expenditure of resources to keep them out. The same probably applies to Google.
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Same device access, same email domain, same tax registration number, going off other answers in the thread
Its just about same anything . Simple guilt-by-association is a real thing for google at least. You have an employee who's deemed by google as a bad app developer? That can impact the business that employs them even if its an unrelated app.
I can’t wait for regulation to arrive and stop this kind of behavior.