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Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by thecodrr »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #197
thecodrr wrote: post #80

Standard Notes is a phenomenal note taking app and one of the first to bring encryption in note taking. They take security very seriously and have multiple third party audits. With that said, the bad outweigh the good. I don't mean to be a pessimist here (SN is inspirational) but: 1. Their free plan is extremely lacking. You can't even try out many of their editors. 2. Their pro plan mostly only offers editors. I am…

> Standard Notes is a phenomenal note taking app and one of the first to bring encryption in note taking. They take security very seriously and have multiple third party audits. > They don't allow any form of account recovery. Which sounds really epic on paper but once you forget your password, you lose all your data. You can't have both. If the service has account recovery after you lose your password or encryption…

> You can't have both. If the service has account recovery after you lose your password or encryption keys, it can only mean that there is no any meaningful encryption.

Incorrect. Check Notesnook[1]. It solves both of those things.

[1]https://notesnook.com/

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by infinityplus1 »

da39a3ee wrote: post #200
infinityplus1 wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try opening a big complex html file and scroll immediately in VS Code and in Sublime text. Sublime Text blows VS Code out of water. This lag made me switch back to Sublime Text from VS Code.

Are you referring to the way VS Code is slow to display the syntax highlighting on file open sometimes? (Is that when it's getting highlighting via LSP?)

Yes. While syntax highlighting is getting rendered, scrolling lags a lot which is really annoying when you want to get to a specifc part of the file quickly. Once I noticed this, it was very hard not to see the same lag everywhere. LSP-I don't know how this works.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by thecodrr »

cyberlab wrote: post #190
thecodrr wrote: post #80

Standard Notes is a phenomenal note taking app and one of the first to bring encryption in note taking. They take security very seriously and have multiple third party audits. With that said, the bad outweigh the good. I don't mean to be a pessimist here (SN is inspirational) but: 1. Their free plan is extremely lacking. You can't even try out many of their editors. 2. Their pro plan mostly only offers editors. I am…

> 3. They don't allow any form of account recovery. Which sounds really epic on paper but once you forget your password, you lose all your data. I actually like this. It's not a misfeature, but a feature. Too often email is a single point of failure and it's how the bulk of account takeover attacks happen. Compromise an email account, and you compromise every account attached to that email. Just don't forget your pas…

> It's not a misfeature, but a feature.

It's inconvenient and unnecessary. I don't get what can be so hard about just giving the user the encryption key. In the recovery flow you can just ask the user for the recovery key to decrypt the data and reset the password. That's how Notesnook does it. The email can never become a single point of failure like this.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by e3bc54b2 »

kzrdude wrote: post #196
e3bc54b2 wrote: post #158

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1. Embedding of images is pretty much file linking. It can display and let you intract with images inline, but that may not be up to your requirement. 2. Same as above, except playback will require a plugin. 3. Absolutely! Tables are fully supported, with automatic formatting and formulae and lots more. This is one of the strong areas of org-mode. 4. You can get bold, italic, monospaced varieties inline, with minimal…

How do you organize suites of notes in org-mode? Do you keep very big documents or one file per project or current task, or how is it divided? And is it possible to have links and hierarchies? I'm still shopping for a good vim-based note taking solution.

Like the sibling comment said, org-deft is pretty fantastic. I have a single folder with many many org files. I have tags in them for general attributes and link/backlink via org-roam so I can instantly get a bird's eye view of which notes relate to which.

While actually editing, org-roam has simple double-bracket syntax that auto-completes existing filenames. If filename doesn't exist, it is created when the link is accessed first time automatically.

Hierarchy gets established automatically as I track back links, or via org-roam graph view. But really, once I started linking notes extensively (because its so easy with org-roam), I realised that my structure ended up mostly as a graph rather than tree. However, org-mode itself has excellent tree style syntax within individual file, which comes in handy.

Searching/analyzing can be done either from withing Emacs via elisp or externally via ripgrep/fd (I'm still noon at elisp)/

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by e3bc54b2 »

sjy wrote: post #168
e3bc54b2 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Embedding of images is pretty much file linking. It can display and let you intract with images inline, but that may not be up to your requirement. 2. Same as above, except playback will require a plugin. 3. Absolutely! Tables are fully supported, with automatic formatting and formulae and lots more. This is one of the strong areas of org-mode. 4. You can get bold, italic, monospaced varieties inline, with minimal…

What’s the experience of searching and editing your org-mode notes on your (presumably Android, since Syncthing doesn’t exist on iOS) phone like? I’ve been interested in org-mode for a while, but most advocates seem to spend all their time in front of a keyboard.

After using org-mode since beginning of pandemic, I've realised that I do little to no editing on my phone.

But for that little editing, Orgzly all from f-droid is pretty great. As a side bonus, it handles TODOs from my org-agenda to generate Android notifications! Very handy and very private.

I'm not sure of Syncthing story on iOS as I don't have an apple device, but you can always store your notes on dropbox/icloud/whathaveyou. Unfortunately I lack any experience to be helpful with Apple devices otherwise.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by pkulak »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #132
thecodrr wrote: post #80

Standard Notes is a phenomenal note taking app and one of the first to bring encryption in note taking. They take security very seriously and have multiple third party audits. With that said, the bad outweigh the good. I don't mean to be a pessimist here (SN is inspirational) but: 1. Their free plan is extremely lacking. You can't even try out many of their editors. 2. Their pro plan mostly only offers editors. I am…

I have tried many note-taking apps. From Evernote to Google Keep to OneNote to Standard notes yo plain old notepad to Zotero to Word and really honestly many more. If you say this list is all over the place, then that is because requirements vary depending on purpose, not the other way around. After almost a decade of experimenting, I have come to realise that the best note-taking tool by far is org-mode. It is free,…

> I can edit it anywhere

Can you pull it up on your phone when you're out and need to jot something down? (Honestly wondering, I've always toyed with org mode, but half my notes are taken on the run.)

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by GekkePrutser »

sneak wrote: post #95
GekkePrutser wrote: post #76

I really miss tomboy (not the new ng version). I used it for years and it was amazing. Rich text without having to use markdown. Razor fast responsiveness when searching. Instant hyperlinks just by typing the name of another note. Excellent keyboard shortcuts too. I really miss it but it was no longer maintained and falling into disrepair on newer OSes due to lacking support for DPI scaling and dark modes. I use onen…

Onenote is not end to end encrypted. Total nonstarter.

Agreed but I don't really care about the privacy of my notes tbh. They're mostly web clippings and technical information I spent time to dig up, not my innermost thoughts.

However something self-hosted would be nicer.

With other O365 services it's more of a problem indeed. I use cryptomator on top of OneDrive to mitigate.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by GekkePrutser »

da39a3ee wrote: post #81
GekkePrutser wrote: post #76

I really miss tomboy (not the new ng version). I used it for years and it was amazing. Rich text without having to use markdown. Razor fast responsiveness when searching. Instant hyperlinks just by typing the name of another note. Excellent keyboard shortcuts too. I really miss it but it was no longer maintained and falling into disrepair on newer OSes due to lacking support for DPI scaling and dark modes. I use onen…

> And they tend to be slow electron stuff I've read this a couple of times on HN. Can someone fill me in here? Is the claim that electron apps are slow justified? If so why, technically, are they slow? The main one I use is Slack and it is perfectly fine on my machine.

The problem with Electron apps is that they're using an embedded browser. As more and more apps are moving to Electron you're running a whole lot of browsers altogether on one system.

I don't want to waste hundreds of MBs of memory just on one small app :)

There's good Electron apps, yes. Like VS code, which is fast and optimised and uses very little resources. But most Electron apps are wasteful. Even the other ones from MS like Teams are horrible.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by GekkePrutser »

thecodrr wrote: post #83
da39a3ee wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And they tend to be slow electron stuff I've read this a couple of times on HN. Can someone fill me in here? Is the claim that electron apps are slow justified? If so why, technically, are they slow? The main one I use is Slack and it is perfectly fine on my machine.

It's mostly hearsay. Electron is highly optimized (it's chromium after all). Making an electron app doesn't make it automatically slow and clunky. That's absurd. Sure it is a browser and it takes a little more Ram than you are used to (but most machines nowadays have 8 to 16 gigs of RAM so not a huge issue). What does make an electron app slow is the app itself. Obviously. You have VSCode that is blazing fast even fo…

VS Code is the exception to the rule. MS has spent lots of time optimising it.

However most apps don't, and even MS' other apps are total crap, like MS Teams. If it was so easy to take the lessons learned from VS Code and apply it to their other apps they would do so I'm sure.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Post by GekkePrutser »

winter_blue wrote: post #100
GekkePrutser wrote: post #76

I really miss tomboy (not the new ng version). I used it for years and it was amazing. Rich text without having to use markdown. Razor fast responsiveness when searching. Instant hyperlinks just by typing the name of another note. Excellent keyboard shortcuts too. I really miss it but it was no longer maintained and falling into disrepair on newer OSes due to lacking support for DPI scaling and dark modes. I use onen…

> I really miss tomboy (not the new ng version). I used it for years and it was amazing. ... I really miss it but it was no longer maintained and falling into disrepair on newer OSes due to lacking support for DPI scaling and dark modes. You could contribute to it, and try to bring the project back to life!!! (I mean, any/most of us here on HN could!) Tomboy is free and open-source software, licensed under the LGPL l…

I can't really, I haven't developed for years anymore. I don't have the chops to do it.

Also, the Gnome team seems to have deprecated it in favour of a rebuild called tomboy-ng that's written in something new (Delphi I think?). And lacks the benefits of the old one like fast responsiveness and auto hyperlinking. I don't like it at all :)

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