I get system76's coreboot offering looks interesting because there aren't many vendors shipping that feature. What's the appeal of their other products though?
Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
The X220 is nowhere near an "absolutely perfect" design, it's way too wide. I still use one as my daily driver, but come on. The screen bezels are huge, the keyboard stretched to fill its wide footprint, and the power plug juts out the back where it gets stressed against the floor in any cross-legged, or other tilted back usage setting. The X61s was far closer to an absolutely perfect design, it just needed less plas…
You are completely right. The X61s is a better design (I happen to own one too!), I completely forgot about it as, due to its much slower CPU, I must have put it away somewhere in the attic many years ago :)
...slow and 32 bit. Got one too.
Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
#203Interesting choice of animal, given that Pangolins are suspected of being the source of the virus causing the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210210/did-the-new-coronav... All publicity is good publicity, I guess...
Ha, came here to say just this.
Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
#204I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…
> I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web)
Thank you for the pointer. I have the exact same laptop and tried Ubuntu on it - couldn't even change the screen brightness.
Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
#205Why aren't there any bold laptop manufacturers? This is a 2021 laptop that uses USB-A primarily, a meh panel, and no particular standout design features. Why do I have to get a mac if I want actually good design? System76 should take a risk and truly make an interesting laptop. leaving the standard, boring design to the big name companies.
My Huawei Matebook Pro is most of what I wanted in that space. 3000x2000 screen, USB-A on one side and C on the other, all day battery, nvme instead of soldered in SSD.
Still has soldered in RAM, unfortunately.
Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
#206I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…
Especially in a post-COVID world where home offices are more common and possibly with even less travel, I think battery life is quite overrated for many people. I have a Serval Workstation (i.e. high-power laptop) from System76 and absolutely love it. The battery doesn't last very long especially if I'm doing heavy-lifting on the GPU, but I very rarely go somewhere I can't plug in. I need to be able to fold up my "workstation" and take it with me, sure. But I can work from the airport, many planes, from my couch, from most coffee shops, etc. I just have to plug in when I get there. I would rather plug in when I get somewhere and have a much more powerful machine at my desk.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are completely right. The X61s is a better design (I happen to own one too!), I completely forgot about it as, due to its much slower CPU, I must have put it away somewhere in the attic many years ago :)
...slow and 32 bit. Got one too.
> ...slow and 32 bit. Got one too.
Slow by modern standards, being pre-Nehalem, yes. But not 32-bit, the X61s tops out at a 1.8Ghz c2d L7700, which is 64-bit:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/32243/i...
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology: No
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology: No
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x): Yes
Intel® 64: Yes
Instruction Set: 64-bit
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology: Yes
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Apple can design custom everything and has the economy of scale to justify it. The PC space is also more competitive, Apple managed to associate their brand with luxury and charge a huge premium for their hardware, a laptop with equivalent specs would struggle massively to sell at the same price when you could purchase similarly powerful laptops for half the cost that would run the same software. At this point Apple…
It wasn't always the case. Also, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. have more than enough economy of scale. $1000 for the M1 air is not a huge premium. It's actually very cheap.
I don't think $1000 can be called "very cheap" when the median laptop price is around $650, and you can get basic Windows laptops for under $300.
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I was considering to buy a G14, but got distracted with other stuff. Can you please share a few details on how you use it? - What kind of external webcam do you use? Does it have any problem with any video-conferencing software? - Do you access any streaming service (with DRM)? Any issues? - Any issues with drivers, returning from sleep/hybernation? Thanks!
I have the Dell G5 4800H (AMD iGPU+AMD dGPU), there are a couple of graphic driver issues under Linux. I'm using the USB-C connection which is connected to the iGPU. * Locks up on suspend/resume * Locks up when inserting an external USB-C monitor * Requires a recent kernel to work properly (5.8 or later) * Locks up without amdgpu.runpm=0 kernel command line * dGPU can't be turned off, so increases power consumption *…
Wow.
I've got a Dell Latitude 5505 with a 4700u.
It's worked great so far except for plugging into Dell's USB-c dock in the morning. This is a guessing game of which (of 3) monitors are going to work, often requiring opening/closing the lid a time or two or turning on/off screens.
Battery life is decent (VERY good if you turn down brightness and ssh to your work) and it's blazing fast. It does get egg cooking hot when unplugged and running the GPU (games).
Running Win10 currently, but trying to figure out which Linux is going to run with 3 monitors without doing hours of research. Suggestions welcome. Guess I'll try PopOS next.
Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics
#210I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…
I have a Lenovo IdeaPad 520 with a Ryzen 5 3500 running Pop_OS. It works great, but battery life hovers around 4 hours (I have no idea how long it is supposed to last under Windows, though).