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Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by hahahahe »

cptskippy wrote: post #83

Rather than trying to encourage people to substitute the ingredients in their meals, I wish we'd encourage more healthy habits and work life balance. So many people are either pressed for time or incapable of preparing a decent meal. If they aren't ordering takeout, they're falling back on boxed or prepared options. Simply substituting fake meat for real meat isn't improving anyone's lives.

I agree 100%. We need to eat more natural food. Farm our own. In that sense, I think ag tech will be a big disrupter in the next decade.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by beisner »

exabrial wrote: post #193

Personally I avoid their stuff. I'd rather have a locally raised steak from one of my neighbors who loves their cattle and their job. Eating highly processed food just isn't good for you.

To be fair, neither is red meat. Unclear which is worse, though.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by exyi »

legitster wrote: post #129

I enjoy eating meat and have no plans of going off of it completely. But we eat so much of it as a culture. And when you add up every hot pocket, frozen pizza, slider, hot dog, or chicken nugget, it's hard to argue that most of meat actually being consumed can't be easily substituted. For something healthier and cheaper too! And I know people blast tech companies for focusing too much on making things flashy and cool…

Beyond Meat is not like tofu or so, it is designed to be unrecognizable from meat by tasting it - so you won't have to give on our beloved meat. I also don't want to go with a vegan diet just because "environment", but having a reasonably priced substituent which does not contain tortured animals and has lower env. impact - then just why not.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by diego_moita »

elktea wrote: post #59
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

The popular crusade against meat is one of the more misguided. Meat provides far more nutritional value than any plant and the environmental impacts have been greatly exaggerated. See below: Regarding carbon: "removal of livestock in the US would only lead to a net GHG reduction of 2.6% in national emissions. Similarly, removing all dairy would lead to a reduction of just 0.7%. At the same time, both transitions woul…

> Meat provides far more nutritional value than any plant

Bullshit, the kind of lies that the meat industry loves to spin.

Nutritional value is not one single measurable thing. And even protein contents (meat's most common nutrient) when measured per gram can be higher in soy and derivatives than in some meats (e.g: pork but and shoulder). When measured by calories other legumes (beans, chickpeas, lupini) beat most meats.

The only nutrient not often found in plants is B12 vitamin. But it can be bought cheap as a nutritional supplement.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by barbs »

This is undoubtedly good news, despite what some people in these comments would have you believe.

I seriously wonder if some commenters are being paid by big meat industries to try and sway opinions of richer/more powerful people? Or perhaps it's just the tendency of HN commenters to be contrarian.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by mft_ »

zozin wrote: post #102

HN masses cheering on the success of Soylent Red or Soylent Yellow?? Just eat less meat if you think meat production is bad/bad for the planet, don't cheer on meat substitutes, which are just processed foods made from entirely processed ingredients. Eating meat for every meal is not good for you, but you can bet that Beyond and Impossible will advertise themselves as something that can be eaten for breakfast, lunch a…

I assume you're being downvoted because of the tone of your comment, but this is actually a really valuable point:

> processed foods made from entirely processed ingredients

There's evidence that suggests the degree to which foods are processed (generally) correlates with unhealthiness. And there's also good evidence that meat is unhealthy in various ways.

So, it's difficult to know where the balance would lie: unprocessed meat, vs. processed meat-substitute?

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by bnj »

ngngngng wrote: post #116
maelito wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> removal of livestock in the US would only lead to a net GHG reduction of 2.6% in national emissions. 100% can be split in so many small sums. Each percent is worth taking.

Once we remove that 2.6% though, we'll have a whole new 100% to fight against.

Just chiming in to say that I personally found this really funny. Similar sense of sarcasm, I guess.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by kzrdude »

tmotwu wrote: post #110
bweitzman wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you comparing nutritional value between meat and plant products? There are literally hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people that have been eating vegetarian diets for their entire lives, and these types of diets have been popular for millennia.

Those arguments always drive me nuts because they're all so bro sciencey, and I'm not even vegan or vegetarian. Sure, meat offers a different set of nutritional value than vegetables - you can most definitely replace it entirely with other sources and remain very healthy. Billions of people have done it for centuries and continue to do so, as you've said.

A counter argument - billions of people subsisted on ok food for centuries, but somehow in the 20th and 21st centuries people got taller, smarter and had earlier puberties because of better nutrition.

Doesn't that mean there is a quality (and quantity) to nutrition and not just subsisting, that we need to examine? And the claim about meat is that it has a quality that is beneficial.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by savrajsingh »

therealmarv wrote: post #140
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

You should research on German Ökotest and beyond meat test. I don't get why things like beyond meat is not more tested. Why is mineral oil in their patties ???

there is no mineral oil in beyond meat: https://www.beyondmeat.com/products/beyond-beef/ click 'ingredients'
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