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Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Reads like snake oil to me. I'd love to learn how this devices reshapes your eye lens when not worn. There are methods out there that people swear by, but I haven't seen a drop of evidence. I'd jump at the opportunity if it worked.

There is Orthokeratology, which physically deforms the cornea via a contact lens, and lasts about a day or two. But it isn't ideal, and can have bad outcomes.

I remember learning about it while reading about someone doing this to pass 20/20 SFTI test (aka topgun).

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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> but do discuss with your doctor This requires having a doctor you trust. My experience with most doctors is that I can trust them about as far as a used car salesman.

Start by finding an eye doctor that doesn't have a glasses shop attached, imo. Or one that isn't "attached" to such a shop in a way they would profit from it, I guess. Without insulting any doctor in specific, my thought is that making a profit from glasses being sold is likely to impact how likely the doctor is to prescribe new glasses.

> Or one that isn't "attached" to such a shop in a way they would profit from it, I guess.

Costco is set up this way: their optometrists are contractors who get a flat fee per eye exam, and they don't know or care about what else you buy while you're there.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Key words: "reduce the progression". Which means that marketing this as a cure is a complete fraud.

Perhaps if they are given to children, it would result in them permanently developing 20/20 vision.

20/29 isn’t some perfection. It’s merely typical. Many people with good eyes can see quite a bit better than that.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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I have a lot of questions, but I'd definitely pay if it worked. I've very slowly been getting more nearsighted, but I mainly avoid wearing glasses. My optometrist said that wearing glasses would speed the slide, although I'd eventually end up at the same level of myopia. I'd much rather wear glasses that fix the problem than make it worse.

Note that if your eyes have different sight strength, you definitely should use glasses. Otherwise the brain learns that signal from one eye is meh, and stops using it as much—so the eye stops focusing.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Correlation does not imply causation but it does imply having something to do with the other. Your first sentence contradicts itself.

> Correlation does not imply causation but it does imply having something to do with the other Correlation does not imply having something to do with another. For example, in the first decade of the 21st century, spending on space exploration had a 99.8% correlation with a specific subset of suicides (hanging?).

It depends on what you mean by "having something to do with the other" but I see what you mean. I should've assumed the more favorable interpretation of the comment I was replying to. Reminds me of the pirates and global warming correlation.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Ask yourself, how much brighter is it outside than inside (assuming a sunny day vs a brightly lit office)? Before looking into this, I would have guessed 2X or 3X, but would you believe it's actually over 100X! I bet most people's guess would also be off by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. Even outdoors in the shade, it is over 50X brighter than indoors. (For specific numbers and comparisons, see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

I’d wager there’s an effect like this for adults too. I didn’t need glasses until I got my first office job.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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This is similar to the “active focus” method: https://endmyopia.org/ I’ve been in this Facebook group for a while and lots of people have great personal anecdata about their improvements. It’s really interesting to see a medical device come out and if they have clinical trials to back it up.

this method is absolute snake oil. Google around. Most myopia is axial in nature - in layman terms - your eyeball is just too long. No amount of exercises or staring into the sun is going to reduce its length.

The eyeball is not “just” too long. It elongates as a response to the stimuli from the lens projecting an image at a focal length behind the retina. Most kids are not born nearsighted. It develops over time. This is how.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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I'm short-sighted. I'm more worried about blurry traffic than blurry food.

My understanding of the parent's post was that someone with -2 vision may expect roughly perfect vision as their eyes age. I couldn't find a study with data, but there are anecdotal guides online (for picking reading glasses) which state that by 60 years old, it's estimated that a person would need about +2.25 diopters in correction. So someone who is around -2 diopters may expect to have roughly perfect vision as th…

This is a misunderstanding of what happens to your eyes as you age. Your eyes lose the ability to change focus. People with normal vision will have their focus stuck near infinity and will need reading glasses for close up things. People with mild myopia will have their focus stuck at close range and therefore won't need reading glasses. They will still need glasses to see clearly far away, but they always did, so it won't be a change for them.

I guess if I had to choose, I would pick needing glasses for far away rather than up close. But I wouldn't trade normal vision for myopia just to avoid needing reading glasses in old age.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Was this in the US? I’ve tried and everyone told me filling an expired prescription is illegal. Even places that don’t do exams. I have an old prescription and don’t want to get an exam because of the pandemic.

That doesn't make sense. I'd recommend getting glasses online from Zenni [0]. They just ask for the measurements of the prescription. There's nothing about expiration dates. And they're super inexpensive! Glasses are a racket. I can't speak for the quality/durability of their frames, as I only used them to get some prescription lenses for my Valve Index so I can play in VR without wearing my glasses. [0] https://www.…

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Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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> making a profit from glasses being sold is likely to impact how likely the doctor is to prescribe new glasses. And beyond that, following the logic from the recent surgery thread: they see their patients see better. They see all the good cases, where someone walks out more confident and with better sight. Their product helps people. But then so do homeopathic placebos (to a certain (measurable) extent), and that's…

Have a link to the surgery thread?

I believe they’re referring to this thread from December: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25472970
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