I think FB/Twitter and others got bold, but kinda forgot they are also most likely digging themselves deep into regulation hell.
Regulatory capture is likely positive for Facebook
Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
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#202There was also a historical re-enactment page removed in December because they had militia in their title [1] Looks to just be an over-eager moderation engine. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-55215949
A moderation engine that they designed and are responsible for. It being "automatic" does not relieve them of one iota of responsibility for it.
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#203These discussions always end in the same way. "But they are a PRIVATE COMPANY they have the right to do that!" Fuck that. Who is working on decentralized content distribution? We need decentralized free software versions of Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube so that not a single actor has veto power over what content is allowed. Something like torrents, but without torrent sites (which are single points of failure). Ther…
The only way you're getting a decentralised system without child porn at all is to allow some moderation. Decentralized consensus-based moderation can probably be relied on to shut down child porn distribution, but soon you're going to run into the problem that large numbers of people signing up to use the service hate Nazis and/or BLM just as much...
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was correcting what looked like a significant misapprehension about the subject of the thread, not arguing for a comparison. Although I can't see anything in throwaways885's comment to suggest that they were talking about the post-Capitol-breach purges. If anything, "for a while" suggests the opposite.
The "this gets more favourable media attention." definitely implies they're referring to the flurry of media attention towards alt-right removals we've been seeing And my point is it's not really a "significant misapprehension" at all, at least not significant to their point. They could be a party of one guy in his underwear and the point would still stand
Per the sibling comment to yours, no, they aren't referring to that. "The point" is attacking a strawman.
As a general takeaway, "It actually feels absurd to type that sentence out..." can be a useful warning sign that you're projecting an absurd interpretation onto a reasonable statement instead of applying the Principle of Charity.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
The decentralized web is the world wide web, and the decentralized tech you're referring to is just a shrunken facsimile of the real thing. Facebook is just the most popular "node" on the decentralized web, if the masses switched over to some ActivityPub social network history would just repeat itself whenever the most popular node bans someone popular.
That's like claiming that digital money can't be fully decentralized. And it indeed wasn't possible until Satoshi figured it out. There's no obvious reason to believe that a fully distributed social network isn't also possible. A requirement would be that any individual would have full agency for all operations on the network. Once you've got one agent that has special power over another agent, it's lost.
What Satoshi has actually proven is that the cliche is true: you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide, if by "nothing" you mean "nothing that's a major crime."
Bitcoin is mostly a speculative tool and what few transactions happen on the blockchain are dominated by drugs and other contraband.
Society doesn't hold together at all unless people are smacked back into line when they act antisocially. No amount of technology can change that fundamental truth; ostracism and silence are core to human nature.
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#206This shut down story is another tale in the impending international regulation, and maybe breaking up, of what is comically called 'big tech' ('big' does not begin to describe the sizes involved, the naivety is staggering). As newspaper barons before them, the internet has not policed itself adequately enough, according to the governments of the world, and now they will act in unity to take back some control. And the…
> Citizens will require a personal licence to access the internet, and anonymous use will be illegal.
Sadly, given the actions of Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and Google, that is a preferred option to the current state today. Ironically we will have more freedom in that state.
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#207It's a positive thing for these ejections to be across the political spectrum, because it makes the demand for distributed moderation come from across the political spectrum. I hope that demand congeals on support for an open blogging protocol, such that people can very easily post once and direct it to multiple platforms or any listener. If this becomes popular enough, and posts aren't owned by a particular platform…
As long as the same types of ejectable communications are being published across the political spectrum. I assume the SWP was calling for violence against the government or various officials?
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
"radicals" that brought us the 40 hour work week. That brought us birth control. That brought us voting rights for all. All of these were "radical" at their time. The only reason they're not anymore is because they have become mainstream. Maybe you should check your assumptions about how life is and read some history of how we got here. "defund the police" is something that has been vocalized for decades, if not cent…
Nevertheless those opinions are not widespread among minority groups, which was the original point.
Yes. But marginalized doesn't mean racial minorities. Which you've seemed to miss.
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#210Tim Berner’s Lee and the Solid project have a good answer to these issues I think. Everyone owns their posts and likes and comments and friends etc. Any new platform can spin up and instantly compete because they just have to make your data more useful to you. It’d be like you owning all your music online and Spotify is just an interface, if you don’t like it you can jump to Apple Music. Or make your own or download some random app off the web that does what you want. The reason a new social network can’t just compete with Facebook is because they have all the data, if the data could stay with us then new platforms offering news ways of interfacing would be popping up all over the place. https://solidproject.org/