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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by gumby »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #164
skocznymroczny wrote: post #109

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The main issue of this is just like with touchbar and similar solutions - power users don't look at the keyboard, so the usefulness will be minimal.

I think HN is a bit unfairly biased against the touchbar, since it serves almost zero purpose for programming work. However, it's quite handy when doing multimedia work with applications that integrate with the touchbar (Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop)

It's for people who look at the keyboard when they type. I think it would be a godsend for the low end machines. Instead they put it on the high end machines and left it off the entry level ones -- completely backwards.

I personally never used the F keys for anything so don't really care if they are there or not (I use them just for brightness and mute) but the Touch Bar was too sensitive. And while I initially thought it would be cool to have an extra status display, a display someplace nobody ever looks is pretty useless.

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Post by zshift »

jasnk wrote: post #199
square_usual wrote: post #38

I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

Perhaps the new MacBook Pro supports USB-C charging AND wireless charging? MagSafe in this context could be referring to wireless charging. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagSafe The quote from Kuo specifically mentions MagSafe charging connector design, but he could have mistakenly assumed his source was still referring to the wired connector if they mentioned MagSafe. Curious about changes to I/O ports. I would expe…

Wirelessly charging a laptop would waste so much energy. I really hope this isn’t what they’re planning.

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Post by dylan604 »

invalidusernam3 wrote: post #128
twelve40 wrote: post #84

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yes, but also the damn trackpad. I feel like i'm getting carpal tunnel just trying to avoid swiping the damn thing with my palm it's so freaking huge. Been 3+ years still feels like it's designed specifically to get in the way of my work.

My main gripe with the trackpad is not being able to customise the size of the right click area. It's so small compared to the size of the trackpad.

Mac user: what's a right click area?

Non-Apple laptop user: "It's that ridiculous concept of only being able to enter a right click in a specific area of a track pad. Also, can only scroll by swiping on certain parts of the track pad as well"

Mac User: You accept that?

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by dylan604 »

nicoburns wrote: post #186
dzhiurgis wrote: post #155

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They need two lines of laptops for sure. Dev and Creative ones. Devs don’t care about colour gamut, gpu, touchbar, etc...

Are many creatives using laptops? Most creative people I use are using desktops with big screens or iPad pros with an Apple pencil.

As powerful as laptops are now, yes, lots of of creatives use laptops. There's entire industry (well, were before covid) of doing fast turn time on-site on video/photo editing. Lugging desktops around in giant cases paying surcharges for heavy and extra bag charges on airlines is incredibly expensive.

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Post by underseacables »

ChrisRR wrote: post #146
twelve40 wrote: post #84

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yes, but also the damn trackpad. I feel like i'm getting carpal tunnel just trying to avoid swiping the damn thing with my palm it's so freaking huge. Been 3+ years still feels like it's designed specifically to get in the way of my work.

Apple doesn't want to sell you a laptop, they want to sell you an oversized ipad with a keyboard. Unfortunately the giant trackpad is here to stay

The giant trackpad seemed like Apple wanted people to use the MacBook like an iPad, which still doesn’t make sense.

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Post by t0mbstone »

I was literally just commenting to a co-worker about how I haven't used my touch bar even once in the past year.

Give us TACTILE interfaces! I don't want to accidentally push a virtual button just by brushing my hand across a smooth surface.

Honestly, what would actually be pretty cool would be tactile keyboard buttons with screens built into their surfaces. That way you could actually assign visual hints to your function keys, and they could still require tactile presses to use. That will unfortunately probably never happen though, due to manufacturing costs and complexity.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by emptyparadise »

underseacables wrote: post #206
ChrisRR wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn't want to sell you a laptop, they want to sell you an oversized ipad with a keyboard. Unfortunately the giant trackpad is here to stay

The giant trackpad seemed like Apple wanted people to use the MacBook like an iPad, which still doesn’t make sense.

Why can't they just put in a touch screen? Is it purely pride at this point?

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Post by luche »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #173
zuhsetaqi wrote: post #158

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Last Intel MacBook Pro generation before M1 had all TouchBar

But why didn't they revive the 2018 version of the Intel MBP that didn't have the TouchBar? It would have fit perfectly as it was also a two-port model. Maybe it has to do with the keyboard being broken in the 2018 model, but (to this layman) it sounds easier to fix that than to add support for the TouchBar on Apple Silicon for a single (!) temporary hardware model. Now they have to keep that TouchBar code around in…

i'd wager it's either a hardware requirement (reusing existing components) to not have to build a different design prior to a full refresh with the new arch, or kind of a trial run for Apple to see how many would prefer a slightly cheaper design without the touchbar. The differences of the Pro vs Air are quite minimal. Where I do like the fanless design, I was concerned of thermal concerns on the Air, but there was no way that I'll ever buy a touchbar product from Apple ever again, so I took a shot with the Air. Pleasantly surprised with heat/energy/battery, and couldn't be happier to have the physical F key row back. M1 Air is hands down the best MacBook I've used since the 2015 MacBook Pro.
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