Reading Amazon's reasoning, tech companies are basically setting a standard that if you want to have user-generated content, you must have professional moderators. This seems like it will be a barrier to innovation.
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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
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#202It was never a fair expectation that Parler would be able to scale up moderation in 24 hours. So this was in effect a rigged deadline, somewhat analogous to a "Performance Improvement Plan".
You're missing the fact that this is a suspension, which can be reversed if Parler takes the required actions.
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#203So.. embrace censorship or get de-platformed. Got it. I don't use Parler, but this newfound love of censorship is going to end badly. How long until we start book burning because they promoted wrongthink?
You think Apple should allow people to promote and plan violence on their platform? Really?
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#204Again, get known for being the place where coups are planned, and you won't enjoy the consequences. The free market is a lovely thing.
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#205It likely doesn't stop with Parler. Fox News, OANN and Newsmax also have targets on their backs placed by the incoming regime.
I hope tech companies will also do a purge amongst their employees.
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#206When I suggested AWS would do this yesterday, I was downvoted like crazy. Same with the Apple/Parler ban.
What reality are people living in? Because whatever it is, your ability to predict actions in the real world is poor.
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#207Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…
How do you classify an “actual terrorist grouping site” versus a “collection of fringe political ideological groups who happens to have a lot of content which looks suspiciously like the same content you’d find on actual terrorist groups’ sites” without using a broad brush?
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#208> “[W]e cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others,” This seems to be the standard
They probably owe a modifier to violence. I mean, plenty of government agencies involved in national security use AWS.
Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
#209Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…
A line of "cannot police their userbase and prevent them from violently threatening other people on a regular basis" seems to pass the reasonable-person test to me.
(To be clear: I think Mark Zuckerberg and the actors at Facebook who have not handled their fomented genocides on Facebook and WhatsApp belong in the Hague. I am not precious about them, either.)
Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
#210Reading Amazon's reasoning, tech companies are basically setting a standard that if you want to have user-generated content, you must have professional moderators. This seems like it will be a barrier to innovation.
Incidentally, this is the legal standard you'd have if you get rid of Section 230 - you can either do literally no moderation at all (and be immediately overrun by spammers, scammers, and people using you as a numbers station for hosting pirated content), or you can employ a team of professional moderators such that no user-generated content says anything you wouldn't be willing to be legally seen as the speaker of.