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What I Use Instead of Google

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I'm all for getting out of the cloud, but moving from one company, to multiple other companies seems to have achieved nothing but diversify and multiply the amount of terms you've had to agree to (they will all tell you the same thing in the end: if they block your account, or lose your data, it's your problem). The only real solution is self-hosting[1], which is becoming a bit difficult with email these days. [1] No…

> a rented server in some datacenter is not self-hosting It is though. Don't be elitist.

yeah, I guess I've been elite since I was 14 years old and put my pentium 90 online as a server.. it's entirely doable, there are two million guides for doing lots of stuff more ambitious on a raspberry pi, and that'd even be plenty of power for many uses.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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I'm all for getting out of the cloud, but moving from one company, to multiple other companies seems to have achieved nothing but diversify and multiply the amount of terms you've had to agree to (they will all tell you the same thing in the end: if they block your account, or lose your data, it's your problem). The only real solution is self-hosting[1], which is becoming a bit difficult with email these days. [1] No…

Is getting your mail sent from your own e-mail server past the GMail and Outlook spam filters trivial? I always hear about the aggressive spam filters that these providers have which makes it hard to set up your own server. Not saying it's not possible, but I am assuming it is somewhat difficult to set up and their is probably some maintenance that goes along with it. So much so that paying for a provider makes sense…

no it is not trivial, it's getting harder, and it's partly because we're letting it, by using the option less and less.

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> a rented server in some datacenter is not self-hosting It is though. Don't be elitist.

yeah, I guess I've been elite since I was 14 years old and put my pentium 90 online as a server.. it's entirely doable, there are two million guides for doing lots of stuff more ambitious on a raspberry pi, and that'd even be plenty of power for many uses.

Not elite, but elitist. Yes, running your own hardware is easy. It also sucks, and you will have poor network performance compared to a datacenter.

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> I suspect means it [DDG] would be a perfectly fine replacement for most people I suspect otherwise. DDG is as good as Google in certain topics, especially programming-related topics. But otherwise, not so good. Sometimes, it feels like it simply has indexed less pages than Google. But I still use DDG as much as possible, only !g when the results are unsatisfactory. I don't know how much it actually help DDG, though…

As has been mentioned many times, the problem (if you want to call it that) with DDG is that it does not personally tailor results. Google is great at deciphering what I mean because it has data on me. DDG doesn't have this data, so how I search needed to be tweaked. I rarely have need for the g! anymore.

For me, the non-tailoring is a massive benefit because it doesn't try and guess at what I mean. When I search for "Python" I get snakes and language documentation. Having to be more specific about what I want isn't a great burden when it means I can actually find what I actually want, not what the search engine is guessing I want.

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Or people are just sick of being shown ads on everything Google. Sure $5 you get X, Y, Z but you also get 000's of ads pumped at you constantly. Even though you pay for that access you are pretty much opening up all of your inboxes etc for crawlers to scan for your likes, dislikes etc.

GSuite subscription excludes you from most of it, to be fair.

I would to believe this but after spending many years of with SEO and PPC it just doesn't matter if they do to be fair. One way or another your GSuite account is linked to your personal account and that's where things get back on track for the big G and their data.

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Why?

In addition to their always valid "because we can" this would also add another: revenge.

But are there any reports of people who use this getting locked out of their account? That would make me very leery as well. Otherwise, I wouldn't personally be worried, especially as the goal is to get off Google in the first place.

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> Does anyone know if pro/business accounts with Google GSuite have better privacy than free accounts? Officially, I'm sure they claim that G-Suite data is not used for any advertising purposes. However, just like I wouldn't trust an alcoholic with guarding a warehouse full of booze, I wouldn't trust this promise especially considering they intentionally violate the GDPR with a misleading, obnoxious and non-compliant…

Agree. It is unlikely that google adheres to their ToS, it is more profitable to violate them and if you get caught do the usual "oops, our bad" like Facebook does regularly.

Then you can't trust, accept, or move to, any other company, either.

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I finally got around to installing a PiHole, and it blew my mind that the default behavior was to use an upstream resolver. I had never imagined that the countless folks more privacy-oriented than myself, would tolerate this. After reading up on it, okay, I get that those upstream forwarding resolvers will be faster due to being geographically distributed and having a huge number of users (== very current cache), but…

It's more complicated than that: using unbound is basically trusting your ISP with your DNS data (it's not encrypted so it can MITM). Using an upstream resolver doesn't necessarily mean you give up on privacy. It may actually be more private to use a public resolver (with DoT or DoH of course) that will know your IP address but maybe not directly tie it to your identity (like an ISP does). Also, imo they generally ha…

Thanks, I guess this is a fair point. I'm with Sonic (who I absolutely trust) but currently my fiber is provided by AT&T, who I do NOT. Still waiting for that native fiber.

I guess I'm so used to thinking about this from the the standpoint of building DNS resolvers for business that I didn't think through the differences when it's just my house's traffic.

I'll look into DoH.

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> Does anyone know if pro/business accounts with Google GSuite have better privacy than free accounts? Officially, I'm sure they claim that G-Suite data is not used for any advertising purposes. However, just like I wouldn't trust an alcoholic with guarding a warehouse full of booze, I wouldn't trust this promise especially considering they intentionally violate the GDPR with a misleading, obnoxious and non-compliant…

Agree. It is unlikely that google adheres to their ToS, it is more profitable to violate them and if you get caught do the usual "oops, our bad" like Facebook does regularly.

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