In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

Post by sio8ohPi » Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 7:56 PM UTC

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Automatic guns became regulated in the 1930s, and you need approval by the ATF to own them and they need to be registered. They're in a similar category as bombs, rocket launchers, and whatnot. They are strictly regulated and the government basically knows where each one is at all times. In 1986, they stopped accepting new registrations for automatic guns. So there's a fixed supply of legal automatic firearms that no…

> So there's a fixed supply of legal automatic firearms that normal people can own. Why do people want them? Is it just a hobby, or is there some utility I'm unware of?

Post by beerandt » Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 8:24 PM UTC

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Just a point of clarification for those not familiar with the heist, the weapons used were -not- legal in CA or the US. It was also during the time of the Federal Assault Weapons ban. They were not owned nor able to be owned legally during that time. It was also the inspiration for Heat’s shootout!

So to clarify that...the federal Assault Weapons Ban applied to semi-auto rifles with certain ergonomic features, including pistol grips, flash hiders, and folding stocks. (Semi-auto is one bullet per trigger pull, full-auto means you can hold the trigger down and spray bullets.) The North Hollywood robbers had illegally modified their weapons to enable full-auto fire. Since well before 1997, modifying guns like this…

Post by oblio » Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 8:42 PM UTC

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> More like a reminder that primitive tendencies can revert Society back to its violent mean really quickly and that in turn instilled a need to want to preserve what we have and build resilient communities to that end as we all felt vulnerable to that ever-present danger. Or, you know, not live in perpetual fear of society breaking down, which is something afforded to us by thousands of years of progress and innumer…

“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”- G. Michael Hopf

Post by DennisP » Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 8:45 PM UTC

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So to clarify that...the federal Assault Weapons Ban applied to semi-auto rifles with certain ergonomic features, including pistol grips, flash hiders, and folding stocks. (Semi-auto is one bullet per trigger pull, full-auto means you can hold the trigger down and spray bullets.) The North Hollywood robbers had illegally modified their weapons to enable full-auto fire. Since well before 1997, modifying guns like this…

>approval of your local sheriff Unless MGs are treated differently than other NFA items in some way I'm unaware of, the new (2016) ATF rules no longer require CLEO (chief law enforcement officer) approval as part of the process, only notification. Of course certain state laws still have a similar approval restriction in place to comply with state law, but local law enforcement can no longer hamstring the actual NFA p…

Post by oblio » Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 8:53 PM UTC

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Have you read your own article? Numbers are spiking for 2020. I wonder why? A global pandemic, mass unemployment, lockdowns, political tensions.

Please don’t ask people if they’ve read the article. It’s obnoxious. And, no, it isn’t just 2020. The homicide rate in St. Louis bottomed out in 2003 at a rate of 21.8 per 100k. By 2014 it had more than doubled to 49.9. By 2015 it had nearly tripled to 59.3 per 100k. And it’s even higher now. It’ll end this year in the 70s per 100k, eclipsing the 1993 high. It’s been a steady march up from the bottom. And the trend i…