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Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by na85 »

ignoranceprior wrote: post #186
hnarn wrote: post #124

The fact that a majority of the comments are whining about the name really shows you the worst part about open source: the non-contributing but highly entitled part of the community. If you don’t like the name, launch your own CentOS replacement. There’s no better time than now. If there’s one thing this project does not need right now, it’s armchair marketing experts. If you do care about a viable CentOS replacement…

I'd just like to interject for a moment. I'm confused why everyone is complaining about the "Rocky" part, which is a nice tribute and sounds pretty decent, when the actual problem is the "Linux" part. It should really be called "Rocky GNU/Linux", or "Rocky GNU+Linux", because the Linux kernel is only one component of a complete GNU-based operating system compatible with the POSIX standard.

I'm so tired of this drivel.

It's called Linux because GNU is awful at naming things. The name "Gahnoo" is too awkward to pronounce and "Gahnoo plus Linux" is too long.

People shorten names for convenience. Deal with it or come up with a better name than GNU.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by lowtech »

murat124 wrote: post #5

What is the vision for Rocky Linux? A solid, stable, and transparent alternative for production environments, developed by the community for the community. Hence the name Rocky Linux, I suppose? Solid as a rock. Although I'll be inclined to think of it as series of movies. Perhaps even split wood before installing Rocky 5?

RSLinux sounds like a good replacement.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by hnarn »

ajsfoux234 wrote: post #200
haolez wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oracle Linux might change the rules in the future. It kind of just happened with CentOS :)

Well, the same thing might happen with Rocky Linux as well :)

“Anything can happen” is not an argument. It’s about quantified risk.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by gvb »

electrotype wrote: post #163

Someone care to explain why did CentOS switch from downstream to upstream builds? I guess there is a reason.

Money.

RHEL requires expensive licenses. CentOS was RHEL without the RedHat branding and without the expensive licensing.

By design, there was a nearly complete overlap between RHEL and CentOS. By "repurposing" CentOS into a "rolling release", RedHat (IBM) has broken the overlap so CentOS (free licensing) no longer competes directly against RHEL (expensive licensing).

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by em500 »

kondbg wrote: post #179

Devil's advocate: why should I choose this yet-to-exist distribution over something already existing, such as Oracle Linux? The most common argument (Oracle is evil and litigious. Therefore, using Oracle Linux will result in me being sued) honestly seems like FUD. All RHEL downstream distributions rebuild the same SRPMs that RHEL provides. Doing a quick comparison over some common packages (kernel, httpd, openssl, et…

In an earlier thread, some Oracle guy (not in the Oracle Linux team) mentioned that Oracle 8 actually builds from CentOS 8, rather than RHEL 8. I was a bit skeptical, since OL 8 usually releases much earlier than CentOS 8, but couldn't verify things either way. Someone else mentioned that RH actually only releases RHEL8 sources through CentOS8 sources. Again, I don't know how to verify, but if true they raise a lot of new questions about Oracle Linux 8 given the recent CentOS 8 announcement.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by CivBase »

eggman314 wrote: post #180
tus88 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with the name? It seems fairly uncontroversial to me.

In some contexts rocky is synonymous with unstable or unreliable, so I assume that's the issue some people have.

Really? My first thought was the "Rocky Mountains" which seem like an apt metaphor for something slow, stable, and rock-solid. The logo even looks like a mountain peak.

My second thought was Rocky Balboa... but I figured that probably wasn't right.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by GordonS »

sreevisakh wrote: post #39
dfdz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really think someone needs to convince them to change the name to something like "Rock Solid Linux". Is there anyway to try to make this happen?

As others have pointed out, the name is a tribute to a late CentOS cofounder Rocky McGaugh. It would be sad if it had to be changed. We should perhaps emphasize the CentOS lineage in the name instead.

I didn't know about the "Rocky" tribute, but IMHO it would still work as a great nod to Rocky McGaugh with "Rock" instead of "Rocky".

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by boomboomsubban »

na85 wrote: post #201
ignoranceprior wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. I'm confused why everyone is complaining about the "Rocky" part, which is a nice tribute and sounds pretty decent, when the actual problem is the "Linux" part. It should really be called "Rocky GNU/Linux", or "Rocky GNU+Linux", because the Linux kernel is only one component of a complete GNU-based operating system compatible with the POSIX standard.

I'm so tired of this drivel. It's called Linux because GNU is awful at naming things. The name "Gahnoo" is too awkward to pronounce and "Gahnoo plus Linux" is too long. People shorten names for convenience. Deal with it or come up with a better name than GNU.

First, obvious troll is obvious. Second, complaining that the "GNU" part is awkward to pronounce when it's a regular English word unlike Linux amuses me. Linus Unix to Linux will forever haunt free software.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by [deleted] »

na85 wrote: post #201
ignoranceprior wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. I'm confused why everyone is complaining about the "Rocky" part, which is a nice tribute and sounds pretty decent, when the actual problem is the "Linux" part. It should really be called "Rocky GNU/Linux", or "Rocky GNU+Linux", because the Linux kernel is only one component of a complete GNU-based operating system compatible with the POSIX standard.

I'm so tired of this drivel. It's called Linux because GNU is awful at naming things. The name "Gahnoo" is too awkward to pronounce and "Gahnoo plus Linux" is too long. People shorten names for convenience. Deal with it or come up with a better name than GNU.

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