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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by GloriousKoji »

markkanof wrote: post #63
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Do these vaccines prevent a person from spreading the virus? I've heard a number of times that these will prevent the person who got the vaccine from getting sick, but that it won't prevent them from spreading the disease. If that is the case then I could understand why a young healthy person would not want the vaccine as the risk to them from covid is extremely low.

Nothing is 100% yes or no, but it's safe to say that the vaccine helps reduce the spread of the virus.

Vaccinated people can spread the virus on a (there's a better term for this) surface level, which is why it's still important for them to wear masks and wash hands.

Hypothetical example of how it can spread: an infected person sneezes on a vaccinated person right in the face. That vaccinated person then rubs his face all over an non-vaccinated person. Really high chance the non-vaccinated person is infected.

I also want to emphasize that a vaccinated person that came in contact with the corona virus is far less contagious than an asymptomatic person.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by viraptor »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #119
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

A series of questions/answers I've had with doctors and nurses and quite a few intelligent and educated people. (PhD's, MD's and RN's included) Q: Does all medicine go through a rigorous efficacy testing that is certified by the FDA? A: Yes. Q: Do vaccines? A: No. Q: Why? A: It would be unethical. This is surprising to people who don't know how vaccines are made. edit: removed hyperbole

Vaccines go through phase 3 testing which is about efficacy. (And some other properties) What do you think is missing from them?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by postalrat »

jkw wrote: post #49

I think there's a difference between: (a) I WILL WAIT because I don't trust it yet, and (b) I WILL WAIT because I want to let the more at-risk people to have access it to first That seems to be lost in the poll

And many people claiming (b) also feel (a). Practically there is no difference between those options.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by RobertRoberts »

viraptor wrote: post #202
RobertRoberts wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A series of questions/answers I've had with doctors and nurses and quite a few intelligent and educated people. (PhD's, MD's and RN's included) Q: Does all medicine go through a rigorous efficacy testing that is certified by the FDA? A: Yes. Q: Do vaccines? A: No. Q: Why? A: It would be unethical. This is surprising to people who don't know how vaccines are made. edit: removed hyperbole

Vaccines go through phase 3 testing which is about efficacy. (And some other properties) What do you think is missing from them?

None of them intentionally give the live virus to their subjects.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by arpyzo »

grawprog wrote: post #164
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Well, dunno if I should explain my reasoning but here goes... For the same reason I never got a rabies vaccine until having to work in close proximity with rabid animals. Up until that point, my chances of dying from rabies were pretty slim to none. Likewise, my chances of severe complications, death, or even experiencing any symptoms at all are slim to none. The at risk people around me will be likely vaccinated, so…

Here's my answer the to "why". We need to achieve herd immunity and you're part of that.

Get it for the sake of other people. Someday the tables may be turned and you'll be hoping others make a sacrifice for you.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by mombul »

parliament32 wrote: post #115
tF73d78kq8t3R6n wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m no anti-vaxxer, but the current situation feels like a scam to me. “Hurry, take this vaccine, save lives!” I’m being asked to suspend critical thinking and accept a chemical into my body under duress and time constraints. “Take it now, this is your time! It’s finally available to you. Don’t you want to resume your normal life?” I’d rather wait and see, even if waiting carries a small, known amount of infection ri…

This sums it up pretty well. I'm not opposed to vaccines, and probably have had a lot more than the average HNer, but I feel like I'm being "sold" this a bit too hard... question everything, as they say.

Well, there IS a pandemic. So there IS a good reason for "selling it" "a bit hard". It will literally save lives and end a world-wide economy-crippling disease.

Now I agree the process was quicker than usual, that it brings up a lot of questions. But it's the studies we should question, the efficiency, the long term effects. The way it's sold and "advertised" is just equally as dramatic as the disease it's trying to stop, in my opinion.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by CodeGlitch »

_5yoy wrote: post #96
nostromo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to worry about who should go first. They will be rolling it out based on need. When it's available to you, go get it.

Not sure why you would think a vaccine being managed by the government will be rolled out in a sane and consistent manner? edit As was correctly pointed out, I should mention I'm speaking purely about the US and not any other country.

In the UK this is being managed by the NHS (someone correct me if this is incorrect). They do this every year for managing the Flu Virus.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by tootie »

DataSceince123 wrote: post #126

The vaccine should be given to BIPOC people first as pointed out by VOX [1] because they have a higher mortality rate from the disease. Once POC in at risk segments have received their dose then we can give it to others. Its interesting to consider the inequality outcome here, ie if we dont give it to POC first, and they cant return to the office when others can, then they will end up losing to office politics. [1] h…

As much as this makes sense from an epidemiological perspective it's only going to inflame more resentment and likely from the same demographics that are vaccine skeptics. Public health officials are unfortunately going to have to factor in PR and politics if they want get the most people protected.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by thelean12 »

deftturtle wrote: post #112
whymauri wrote: post #18

I'm really interested in the people who are saying 'no.'

I don’t trust the US government and would prefer to wait and see if there are side effects. Are there risks to taking a vaccine that was rapidly produced? We won’t know until we know, and so I will wait at the minimum. So no, I won’t take it until I see how it plays out in society. And if I am persuaded by the evidence, I might take it. I’ve taken only 1 flu shot. As someone in mid-20s, I have low risk and honestly w…

> I’ve taken only 1 flu shot. As someone in mid-20s, I have low risk and honestly would prefer getting the flu to injecting myself with a vaccine. So I’ve elected to stop getting flu shots and take the risk.

This is a very selfish take. Unless you're living your life without any human interaction, then you're contributing to the spread of the flu and soon to be covid which impacts people who are at risk.

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Post by tF73d78kq8t3R6n »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #173
tF73d78kq8t3R6n wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m no anti-vaxxer, but the current situation feels like a scam to me. “Hurry, take this vaccine, save lives!” I’m being asked to suspend critical thinking and accept a chemical into my body under duress and time constraints. “Take it now, this is your time! It’s finally available to you. Don’t you want to resume your normal life?” I’d rather wait and see, even if waiting carries a small, known amount of infection ri…

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