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Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by Taek »

dessant wrote: post #66

Awesome project, though the perpetuation of open source software needing to be free is regrettable. > Software as it should be. > Free forever Mostly all popular projects need some form of funding, and setting the expectaction of a free lunch forever for new users is not healthy. Btw, do you remember who used the tagline "It's free and always will be"? It was Facebook.

I've been back and forth with members of the open source community a few times on this, and it seems like a battle that isn't going to be won. Software that has a price tag attached to it is unlikely to be accepted as open source, from what I can tell.

Which makes me wonder: should we come up with a new name/classification for software that is 'free as in freedom' but not 'free as in beer'?

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by cloudhead »

fungos wrote: post #180

I'm impressed and I see potential on this one. I tried different ones over time but most fail at on-boarding. This was seamless and really easy. In about 2 minutes I successfully shared my project and followed known projects. This means this mvp works and it let me craving for more, I want to use this! I want issues and PR support to prove this can effectively work as a github replacement to me. Now, the downside of…

Thanks for the feedback! The priorities you mention are very close to our own, and we have already started working on some of them. We will definitely be integrating discovery more closely into the app in the long run.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by Taek »

rational_indian wrote: post #118

Isn't git peer-to-peer already? Why would anyone need this?

GitHub's primary value add to the world isn't that it's a web interface to git. It's also a social network, an issue tracker, a workflow management system, a code review tool, a wiki-builder, a frontend for your CI, and plenty more.

If github disappears tomorrow, all the code will be safe and decentralized already, yes, but most of the workflow of the software world would be significantly stunted for a good while, because everyone would need to migrate to something else (like GitLab) and then take the time to rebuild all of the data and flow that is on Github but isn't captured within the actual git repository.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by cloudhead »

fastglass wrote: post #122

it would be super interesting to know how private would work

Privacy by necessity will use end-to-end encryption, as artifacts will end up being propagated on the network. This isn't however so easy for long-lived artifacts (eg. what happens if your key is compromised sometime in the future), and we will need things such as forward secrecy.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by cloudhead »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #12
adsweedler wrote: post #6

"Work securely offline" Is... is that a problem with GitHub that stops you from doing that?

You need internet for pull and push. I think(hoping) that they meant within a LAN it could work without internet.

No, the full feature-set is available offline. You can browse your repos and any other repo you replicated, and push/pull. What offline means is simply that your changes won't immediately be replicated to peers. But the full app experience (Read and write) works offline.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by xla »

Taek wrote: post #203
rational_indian wrote: post #118

Isn't git peer-to-peer already? Why would anyone need this?

GitHub's primary value add to the world isn't that it's a web interface to git. It's also a social network, an issue tracker, a workflow management system, a code review tool, a wiki-builder, a frontend for your CI, and plenty more. If github disappears tomorrow, all the code will be safe and decentralized already, yes, but most of the workflow of the software world would be significantly stunted for a good while, be…

This comment is spot on, people who jump to the conversation with the argument that Git is already decentralised don't understand where the most value is captured when it comes to collaboration. It's the social artifact, issues, PRs, etc. And the cost of migrating the community of a project/organisation and their social artifacts is a massive cost, carrying the risk of splitting the community and or stifling any other progress to stay relevant.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by samatman »

dessant wrote: post #66

Awesome project, though the perpetuation of open source software needing to be free is regrettable. > Software as it should be. > Free forever Mostly all popular projects need some form of funding, and setting the expectaction of a free lunch forever for new users is not healthy. Btw, do you remember who used the tagline "It's free and always will be"? It was Facebook.

The unfortunate conflation of libre and gratis in the English language is... not a new observation on your part.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by philips »

fungos wrote: post #180

I'm impressed and I see potential on this one. I tried different ones over time but most fail at on-boarding. This was seamless and really easy. In about 2 minutes I successfully shared my project and followed known projects. This means this mvp works and it let me craving for more, I want to use this! I want issues and PR support to prove this can effectively work as a github replacement to me. Now, the downside of…

Oh wow. This seedling website needs to be suggested as the next step after creating your device id, etc.
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