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Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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What's another good email provider? I am starting to feel really nervous about storing my life in Google. It's not that I wouldn't pay for these things...it's just that I worry one day I'll lose access and fall into the pit of "trying to get Google to help a single human regain access" that sounds horrible.

More important than the current email provider you happen to use is controlling your email _address_, and this means using a domain you control. It enables for a surprisingly pain-free email migration experience as I found out not too long ago, where all you have to do is point the DNS records to the new provider and do an IMAP import from your old email provider, and everything will just work as you'd expect. If I w…

Yes, you can get a domain, but it would depend on yet another email address, right? And if you ever forget to renew it, you will lose it.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

M$ used to delete HoTMaiL emails after 2w inactivity in the early 2000s. Back when the limit was 20MB.

The name "Hotmail" was chosen out of many possibilities ending in "-mail" as it included the letters HTML, the markup language used to create web pages (to emphasize this, the original type casing was "HoTMaiL").

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #54

The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

That has to be why they call it office 365.

Do they have to change the branding on leap years?

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #68

The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

I guess my deceased dad's email was deleted(hotmail). I found an old email address of his and was trying to get into it just to reconnect since he died when I was a child. I get shouldn't see other people's stuff but still... would have been interesting as it was in the early 2000's that he was around. Would have liked to see how his mind operated. Afterall he was a successful person (eg. operating a 60ft yacht for s…

My father also died when I was a child, so I understand where you're coming from. I am now a father, and currently dealing with a serious illness, which has made me think about these things. I can say that my child finding my emails after I'm dead is something I definitely do not want to happen. I'm not sure how to handle it yet.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If IMAP only usage was considered inactive I’d have lost my gmail and hotmail accounts over a decade ago. Startup idea: SaaS that you register you email addresses and periodically does an IMAP request to keep them active. Premium tier would provide actual archiving of your emails.

Yuk. What use is a SaaS for archiving when it's just going to "sun set" in 6 months after the owners sell it to Google?

If it wasn't for the "this service would need access to my email account creds and therefore to all my mail" showstopper...

A distributed service where a group of people all have their own service to "ping" their personal "important accounts", and which accept federation with friends or other users of the service, so if your server/vps/serverless/whatever platform instance goes down your pings still happen from your connected servers.

Elevator pitch: "Like IPFS, but for cron jobs calling curl."

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Google encouraged opening a Gmail account for your kid and emailing it memories as they grow up. So now once they turn 13 and you hand over the password, it'll be deleted?

You could log in to the email account you haven't given your kid yet?

Well, then you see all their personal information and photos....

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #159
post #30

What's another good email provider? I am starting to feel really nervous about storing my life in Google. It's not that I wouldn't pay for these things...it's just that I worry one day I'll lose access and fall into the pit of "trying to get Google to help a single human regain access" that sounds horrible.

"What's another good email provider?" - an alternative is to run your own mail server. I used to do that and the harddrive with all the mail (and a backup copy) is not going away because some company changes policy..

No, it's going away because of bad sectors or Flash memory. Or you lose it, or accidentally format it. Or forget to backup. Keeping your data safe is a hard task.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Set a reminder every 3 or 6 months to use Google Takeout. Download a full copy of your data to a hard drive in your local possession. If you’re really paranoid, download a 2nd copy and put it on a hard drive that you then leave unplugged from all computers and the internet until the next time. Simple solution for anyone with broadband, and then if you ever lost your cloud data due to subscription lapsing or inactivit…

sadly my google takeout never completes. i try about once a year to see if whatever the issue is has resolved itself for maybe the last 6-8 years. i can get some services to takeout if i go one by one, but not the data i really care about.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

Ha! I came here to say the same. THE reason I have never used my hotmail for something serious is that they deleted a lot of my childhood memories in that deletion... I opened my Hotmail account around 1998, and they just deleted all of my memories.

They deleted everything after a long backpacking trip. I'm still bitter.

Nov 1, 2001 https://www.neowin.net/news/infrequent-hotmail-users-face-ou...

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