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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by amatecha »

samdixon wrote: post #177
na85 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to see IRC make a comeback but the fact is IRC on mobile is a pain in the ass. Users want persistence and IRC is designed for the opposite.

That’s somewhat the solution irccloud provides, however they need a mobile app. I think the biggest issue with irc is the backlog. It’s somewhat nice to be able to easily search a companies chat history and find some context. The solution to that is correct documentation, however that problem is much harder.

IRCCloud has had iOS and Android apps since 2016. :)

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by samdixon »

amatecha wrote: post #201
samdixon wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s somewhat the solution irccloud provides, however they need a mobile app. I think the biggest issue with irc is the backlog. It’s somewhat nice to be able to easily search a companies chat history and find some context. The solution to that is correct documentation, however that problem is much harder.

IRCCloud has had iOS and Android apps since 2016. :)

Ha, then mark that problem solved :)

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by SheinhardtWigCo »

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #121

Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…

Enterprises don't want federation. They want an easily searchable information repository much more than they want strong E2EE. They also don't see open source as an advantage.

Matrix was focused on things that deter enterprise customers while Slack built a machine for locking them in.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by variaga »

DigitalBison wrote: post #133
variaga wrote: post #100

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Amazon is a big place and I can't speak for all of it, but while IT announced that slack was "available" a few months ago, I don't personally know anyone that has actually switched to using it. Everyone still uses Chime. That may just be a peculiarity of my department, but saying "Amazon as a company switched to slack" is definitely overstating what happened.

This is super org-dependent -- my entire org has completely switched to Slack, I only use Chime for meetings now (except for the occasional recruiter or someone outside my org who will ping me on Chime).

So that's the thing.

Switching to slack was brought up in our org and most people were at best noncommittal, because the option wasn't really "chime vs. slack", it was "chime vs. chime AND slack".

We'd still all need chime for meetings and interacting with any groups that hadn't switched.

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Post by runawaybottle »

Hamuko wrote: post #25
offtop5 wrote: post #10

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I'd argue that discord brand simply doesn't lend itself well to business. maybe they'll spin off a business oriented division with a different name,

Create a new login system, make the white theme default and call it "Discord Business". Done.

And integrate business twitch streams please, with company email footers always reading ‘don’t forget to sub to my stream’. Let the twisted fantasy play out where the business world lives like esports streamers and wow raiding guilds.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by jlkuester7 »

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #121

Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…

> the only one with an open protocol seems to be Matrix, but it hasn't proven to be to their advantage

I guess it depends on what you mean by "their advantage". Designing and promulgating an actual open federated protocol is way harder/time-consuming than doing the same for a closed proprietary one. So taking this approach has only hurt their flexibility and speed-to-market for features.

However, if done right, an open protocol can be way more advantageous to the global community as a whole! IMHO Matrix started out as just another crazy moonshot. "Let's make something like email and xmpp only better." But, fast-forward to now and they have built a very usable chat ecosystem with multiple server implementations and many clients.

My hope is that things like this Slack acquisition (and the inevitable cooperate shenanigan that will follow) will continue to push individuals and companies to invest in open federate-able alternatives.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by Triv888 »

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #121

Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…

I started using it when it was riot.im but it didn't work any better when they renamed it element and it made it just a bit harder to find while it was not really that popular already... I think they just tried to cash in a bit instead of a lot (or shot themselves in the foot)
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