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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#201

I found it strange that they constantly used "developers". I guess this is the marketing department word to use instead of "users"?

Microsoft recognise that it's developers that have been pushing for open source/free software so they are desperate to keep them on side and locked in.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#204
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have become convinced that the RIAA lawyers emerge from their crypts every few years, generating a slew of copystrikes to justify their retainer fee.

This software makes it easy for people to download copyrighted movies and the RIAA attorneys (at least some) are acting in good faith to prevent people from breaking copyright law and causing their client damages. Can someone argue against me please? (genuinely contribute to discussion by arguing against my own biases, call me a moron instead of downvoting)

That piracy causes client damages is a debatable point. Studies have shown those who pirate software, movies, television, etc., will rarely use or consume that content if they didn't pirate it. I know way back when, when I pirated stuff voraciously, if I couldn't find something I just never read/saw/used it. Not once in my life have I spent days or weeks trying to pirate something only to turn around and pay for it. Some (not all) studies even show that in the case of software, piracy in some cases leads to legitimate use, i.e. purchasing.

Now there's no doubt that piracy violates copyright law. We can debate whether or not that's a good thing, whether the laws in question are just, etc., until the end of time. But it's not a foregone conclusion that piracy has any negative economic impact on copyright holders.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#205

Say what you will about Github and Microsoft, this was a classy move. A million dollars is a million dollars. "Putting your money where your mouth is". "Nonetheless, developers who want to push back against unwarranted takedowns may face the risk of taking on personal liability and legal defense costs. To help them, GitHub will establish and donate $1M to a developer defense fund to help protect open source developer…

They are creating a fund that they control to take the place of EFF and avoid future stand-offs.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#206
post #164

The forks still seem to be borked, hopefully they will get resolved. My fork[0] is still showing DMCA notice and shows that it's a fork of some repo I'm sure I never forked, I forked the original ytdl-org. [0] https://github.com/ozburo/youtube-dl

Yeah, my fork of the original also shows the same never seen before repo as source: https://github.com/ppawel/youtube-dl

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#207
post #184

It seems like EFF fought for youtube-dl and GitHub used their letter as legal firepower to bring the repo back online. If GitHub were fighting for the developer they would have funded the attorney, right? Though from their blog post it does look like they are taking steps to fund defense in the future as well as other steps to improve the situation. Reading EFFs claim is pretty interesting, they state that saving a c…

Whenever you watch a video you are downloading it. youtube-dl merely gives you control over where that stream goes, whether it's to a hard disk or to a media player like the regular Youtube.

The point is that youtube-dl does more than just download videos. It can also be used for downloading metadata. I use -J to download metadata formatted as JSON.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#208
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This line of questioning on Startup News is quite amusing to me, I must say. How many of us can really pretend to make society a better place?

Not everyone here is directly involved in the startup culture and yes, technology and disruption can get shady. But "at least I'm not a lawyer" is a low, low bar to clear.

> But "at least I'm not a lawyer" is a low, low bar to clear.

A lot of people wouldn't be able to get any justice at all if it weren't for lawyers. Lawyers work for the ACLU and EFF too you know.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#209

This really is great to see, but it’s clear from their careful wording that the google takedown of the recent widevine l3 repository won’t be reversed: > And our reinstatement, based on new information that showed the project was not circumventing a technical protection measure (TPM) Since it is clearly circumventing a “TPM.”

It's kinda pointless to reverse that takedown. You can find it elsewhere, and Google plans to revoke the key in Q1 2021 after increasing/changing the obfuscation on widevinecdm.dll.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

#210

I didnt think I could have much more goodwill toward the EFF, yet here we are. Donations link: https://supporters.eff.org/donate/30for30--D

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