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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by effingwewt »

cnity wrote: post #173
NikolaNovak wrote: post #163

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Hah, I get that; it's spookily consistent; but I happen to have exactly the same experience. I've gone through 3 (Epson) inkjets last decade (as I do need to print Photos - but only occasionally), and SO much consistent hassle with cleaning heads and refilling and bad prints. Meanwhile I have a Brother 2270DW for at least the last decade for regular printing and it just works . I've gone through the original small an…

I regret my tone. I let cynicism get the better of me there, sorry!

The truly sad part is your reaction is perfectly normal critical thinking for the age we live in. We are bombarded with lies constantly and as such I've decided I'd rather be a cynic than a perpetual victim.

Age of information, indeed. I guess I just naively assumed it'd be correct information.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by pombrand »

You can't even find aftermarket cartridges for HP's new printers like the Officejet 9020, and a set of OEM replacement ink costs $100.

They're also paranoid devices which re-enable auto updates by themselves, which is probably against EU law but hey :|

Guess the only option is keeping it off the internet completely.

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Post by OJFord »

cnity wrote: post #153
billsmithaustin wrote: post #151

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Brother also has a handy iOS app for printing and scanning.

Are these shill accounts? I've seen raving template-looking comments for Brother in every printer thread for the past few weeks. Get yourself a Edit: Sorry if I'm jumping the gun. Maybe they really are just great?

I don't have a Brother laser printer, but I do enthuse about things I like; I believe them.

(Actually I realised my label (thermal) printer is a Brother. It's ok. Works on Linux except not continuous/arbitrary length - I have to use a preset label size even though it's loaded with a continuous roll, or else it weirdly distorts flips and scales the image.)

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Post by vetinari »

wernercd wrote: post #162
bonoboTP wrote: post #131

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Another problem is if the update is packaged in a print job, which seems to be an option according to comments here. In that case, the Internet connected computer may still be hijacked by the manufacturer to bork the printer against the customers will, by sending a malicious print job to the printer.

There's internet connected - the printer can pull updates... and there's internet connected - the world can send you print jobs. Why would your printer be set to allow print jobs from outside your network?

The driver & related crapware on your computer can push firmware update to the printer. From the perspective of your firewall, it goes the same route as a regular print job.

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Post by adrianmonk »

floatingatoll wrote: post #155
jnxx wrote: post #154

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Only problem with Brother on Linux seems that they do bot distribute drivers in source code but a binary-only Debian package. So, while they seem to have a good reputation for Linux support, there is still lots of room for improvement. Ah, and also on the newwer Brother printers one has to do a complicated configuration menu dance to get rid of "Toner cartridge empty" warnings, in order to do a "Toner Reset", which l…

Why do you need a driver? I thought basically every 2020 printer - and CUPS - supported AirPrint.

Thanks. This is useful info.

Brother's site says my printer does support AirPrint. And through the printer's internal web server, I can see under Network -> Protocol that AirPrint is there and enabled.

I have the binary blob driver installed, so I guess this explains why two entries appear for this printer under Printer settings in Ubuntu.

So, a minor mystery is solved, and I now see that I have the option of removing this driver.

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Post by floatingatoll »

adrianmonk wrote: post #205
floatingatoll wrote: post #155

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Why do you need a driver? I thought basically every 2020 printer - and CUPS - supported AirPrint.

Thanks. This is useful info. Brother's site says my printer does support AirPrint. And through the printer's internal web server, I can see under Network -> Protocol that AirPrint is there and enabled. I have the binary blob driver installed, so I guess this explains why two entries appear for this printer under Printer settings in Ubuntu. So, a minor mystery is solved, and I now see that I have the option of removin…

Ah! Yay!

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

cnity wrote: post #153
billsmithaustin wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brother also has a handy iOS app for printing and scanning.

Are these shill accounts? I've seen raving template-looking comments for Brother in every printer thread for the past few weeks. Get yourself a Edit: Sorry if I'm jumping the gun. Maybe they really are just great?

Honestly, I feel like a shill because I was not a believer.

They are expensive if you're used to cheap inkjets and have to spend $80 on a black-white laser.

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Post by thescriptkiddie »

jnxx wrote: post #154
Unklejoe wrote: post #141

If all you need is black and white printing, there is no need to be buying HP inkjet printers anymore. Get yourself a Mine has been going strong for like 10 years now.

Only problem with Brother on Linux seems that they do bot distribute drivers in source code but a binary-only Debian package. So, while they seem to have a good reputation for Linux support, there is still lots of room for improvement. Ah, and also on the newwer Brother printers one has to do a complicated configuration menu dance to get rid of "Toner cartridge empty" warnings, in order to do a "Toner Reset", which l…

I have an older model brother, but it requires no drivers on Linux. You just set it up as a generic postscript compatible printer in CUPS.

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Post by goldenkey »

cnity wrote: post #153
billsmithaustin wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brother also has a handy iOS app for printing and scanning.

Are these shill accounts? I've seen raving template-looking comments for Brother in every printer thread for the past few weeks. Get yourself a Edit: Sorry if I'm jumping the gun. Maybe they really are just great?

I don't think they are shill accounts. I have a brother thermal printer that I have been using for years. Never needs ink, just special paper. I love the integrations it has like AirPrint and the lack of need for special drivers. After dealing with HP printers back in the day, its a breath of fresh air.

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Post by yrro »

jnxx wrote: post #154
Unklejoe wrote: post #141

If all you need is black and white printing, there is no need to be buying HP inkjet printers anymore. Get yourself a Mine has been going strong for like 10 years now.

Only problem with Brother on Linux seems that they do bot distribute drivers in source code but a binary-only Debian package. So, while they seem to have a good reputation for Linux support, there is still lots of room for improvement. Ah, and also on the newwer Brother printers one has to do a complicated configuration menu dance to get rid of "Toner cartridge empty" warnings, in order to do a "Toner Reset", which l…

Recent printers feature 'IPP Everywhere' which are 'driverless'.

Brother's proprietary garbage driver is not needed for their older printers; there's a reverse-engineered 'brlaser' driver that you can use instead.

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