China has built almost 400 new camps since 2017, while new testimonies have emerged alleging slave labour, forced sterilisations and organ harvesting taking place inside the camps too.
I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
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#202CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane conditions. CCP and Xi Jinping must not be emboldened any further.
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#203>Ӧmir was born to Uighur and Kazakh parents in Xinjiang, or formerly East Turkestan before the Chinese invasion of 1949 This is the first time I've seen the claim that "East Turkestan" (as in the "country") actually existed before 1949. I realize that it could totally be that the history I learnt growing up deliberately omitted that part, and/or the definition of "countries" were more in wonton before the end of WW2.…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_East_Turkestan_Republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_East_Turkestan_Republic Of course, it's Wikipedia, so you'll have to dig through its references.
Thanks for the links.
For the First, even Wikipedia warned that it lacks citations and verification, so I don't think it should be considered as a "creditable source". Also it's only a tiny portion of Xinjiang.
For the Second, even if we consider it 100% true, it doesn't really support the original claim from that interview article, in several ways:
1. It's a small portion of Xinjiang, and the claim _implies_ that the whole Xinjiang was "formerly East Turkestan before the Chinese invasion of 1949"
2. The Second ETR was pro-communism, pro-Soviet, pro-CPC, and against the rest of Xinjiang that's under RoC control. In 1949 CPC won the civil war against RoC (KMT), took control of all of Xinjiang. So I don't see in anyway it could be claimed that China invaded ETR in 1949.
One thing I don't understand is why do those condemn China's treatment of Uyghurs have to add the (likely dubious) claim of China invaded Xinjiang in 1949. It's not like doing a domestic (cultural) genocide is something "better" than invasion and genocide, so why add some dubious claim to your legitimate claim?
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
You keep comparing apples to oranges in order to fabricate an argument. There is no systemic genocide perpetrated by the USA. Maybe if you believed in your argument you’d reply with your real account, not a green one.
>Maybe if you believed in your argument you’d reply with your real account, not a green one. Looking at his karma which is barely anything in all accounts likely he has no real account. Also the usage of other accounts is likely a symptom of a post limit. Either he can respond to you with another account, or he can ignore you because he can't respond with the same account. Either way these actions are not sanctioned…
I am not defending the wars the USA has had. I also feel that the number of collateral damage in the past two decades has been absurd and unjustified. I did not vote for the man who allowed drone strikes on children. Thankfully, the United States has made an effort in the past four years to leave the Middle East.
Nevertheless, this does not justify the actions of the CCP eradicating a whole culture and it’s people. The argument is still unsubstantiated. No global leaders besides the current POTUS are condemning this behavior either, which is a shame. I can only vote with my wallet.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.
Wow, this is a really poor proposal. Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war. UN is a nice idea, though it doesn't work in reality. To apply for an asylum, you need to leave the country. Low likelyhood of happening. I explain why its wrong to my kids. What then? As sad as it is, we can't do much if anything.
The CCP has no intention of repenting of their ways and will always be seeking to increase it's influence abroad; encouraging this kind of behavior everywhere. Of course fighting is not ideal, as uncomfortable as it is; sometimes fighting is necessary.
This isn't a problem that will just go away by wishful thinking or by being ignored.
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#206I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?
Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.
What country's politicians have publicly opposed this?
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#207Thanks for posting this, this is the first time I've found a first-hand account of what's going on over there
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#208I am sad to say, we in the US, UK, and EU can barely save ourselves from our own domestic troubles to present a strong authority to counter these human rights abuses.
We kind of squandered our ability to police the world (right or wrong) given the distractions we created internally. Russia and China must be loving the situation.
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#209I don't know what to say or describe my feelings after reading that article -- How can we help ?
Stop buying China made goods and educate your family members to do so as well. This is good starting point
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#210CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…
As long as 95% of the people in the US keep on buying items with their wallets open, and we're distracted with our own internal strife, what hope is there to counter this? Our leadership certainly isn't up to standing against this sort of thing these days.