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Re: Showoff

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>If you're even a half-serious developer, you're going to have a static IP or something like dyndns. You're also going to have your own domain, VPN, and port forwarding. Setting this up on your own network is trivial. You can use it no matter where you are, so long as you have internet. Just buy a cheapo router that supports DD-WRT, set up dyndns, and you're good to go. Um, Assume none of the above - and instead assu…

If it's a static site, copy it into your dropbox public directory and share the public link.

Is anyone making sites where this would work, for money?

Re: Showoff

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I guess I can't blame you for philosophical differences. Personally, I do a lot of research before investing my time in building something. Not only do I try to avoid NIH, but I prefer investing my time in clever and useful things not done before -- I tend to think I'm good at producing novel things. I suppose others doing something similar a year later and getting more attention comes with the territory. Now... open…

NIH is a willful decision to create something that already exists and is fully known to all interested parties, but summarily rejected on the basis that it is ... wait for it ... Not Invented Here. Sometimes, an identical result issues from identical circumstances wholly independently and honestly--leaving the world with nearly identical objects that attempt to solve an identical problem in an identical way. Casually…

Sorry to bring up NIH so willy-nilly. Ultimately, you guys did an inspiring job and from what I can tell of implementation you did it even more elegantly than I did.

The whole simultaneous invention thing is really interesting to me. It was covered in two great books, What Technology Wants and Where Good Ideas Come From. Both seem to imply that the more utility something has in the "adjacent possible", the more likely it will be invented by many people in roughly the same time period. This actually quite frustrates me about technology! What's worse is that this phenomenon will only increase over time. And because it's about utility (never mind the illusion of unique "UX" of products now), there is little room for expression or creating something unique to you that matters.

Re: Showoff

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Genuinely curious: Could anyone tell me what the difference is between showoff and localtunnel[1], aside from a payment plan? Great looking site, by the way, but I keep bracing for a JavaScript popup with the page so dark. [1]: https://github.com/progrium/localtunnel/

The payment plan provides easy named URLs at showoff.io currently. This is the first minimally viable version. More features are forthcoming.

> This is the first minimally viable version.

This one sentence transformed my opinion from "huh, I can do that myself" to "cool, I'll look forward to seeing what else these guys come up with". Well done for launching your MVP :)

Re: Showoff

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Regarding the name, I actually think PageKite is an excellent name and we are lucky to have it. It's googlable, we got the .com for cheap, it's a strong trademark. If I draw you a picture of your site flying like a kite in the clouds, connected by a string to your laptop, you'll find the name is a perfect fit... :-) Admittedly, I do need to get that picture drawn. Regarding the technical side, you do get all those th…

HerraBRE you need to internalize this: "Some you get by collecting your own server logs, ..." When I say 'internalize' I mean you need to shift your perspective mentally from 'techie' to 'customer.' Anything you can do for the customer, by default, you should do for the customer. A successful product starts "click here", "use now". Leave the 'collect your own logs' as a thing you can do if you want to, but not you ha…

"You have no less than 10 comments in this single submission, and in seven of them you are explaining why someone who is a potential customer is wrong about what they are asking for."

Really? I thought I was saying we were was working on all these things, that it was a work in progress, and I appreciated the feedback. I'm honestly quite confused that you got that out of my comments.

I may have misunderstood your question here, I thought you were asking whether you could accomplish something using PageKite, but perhaps you were being more hypothetical about the desires and first impressions of a potential customer?

Re: Showoff

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Sorry, I don't quite get this. Why can't I just grab my public IP address from Whatismyip.com, and check the Web Sharing option under System Preferences on my Mac? (For Linux, simply fire up Apache; my guess is that most Linux users know how to do that).

"Simply fire up Apache" is a bit of an oxymoron.

service httpd start

Re: Showoff

#206
Gr8 idea, but I wonder how many would be willing to use it (especially when there is an option of firing up a amazon ec2 instance when needed).

Re: Showoff

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Oh but I detect that you care. Well, the difference between this and an obscure open source project buried on git hub is for a starter to at least have a web-site at localtunnel.com!

I care about my work and it being used and contributed to if people are interested in it. I don't care about money, which is why it's open source and run as a free service. My code is MIT and I would love it if people took my code and made a pay-for service like this with it... but instead, they (to be fair, probably unknowingly) duplicate effort and obscure my work. If a fancy website is all I need, I guess that's w…

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Re: Showoff

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Oh but I detect that you care. Well, the difference between this and an obscure open source project buried on git hub is for a starter to at least have a web-site at localtunnel.com!

I care about my work and it being used and contributed to if people are interested in it. I don't care about money, which is why it's open source and run as a free service. My code is MIT and I would love it if people took my code and made a pay-for service like this with it... but instead, they (to be fair, probably unknowingly) duplicate effort and obscure my work. If a fancy website is all I need, I guess that's w…

It doesn't matter what you do -- writing, design, code, philosophy, advocacy, lemonade -- if you want it to get out there, if you want people to use it, you have to market. It doesn't matter whether you're "selling" in the sense of exchanging money or not.

Marketing is critical. And marketing isn't just telling people about it, or advertising. Marketing is making a site that is attractive (to the audience), giving your project a name that is easy to understand and remember, and easy to google for, and making it easy to use, to install, work with it, share it, troubleshoot it, making it easy to find help, easy to find other people who use it in a community. Marketing means making it clear as hell what the user gets out of your "product," and keeping the focus on the user at all times.

These are all relative, depending on your audience. (Ex: Lots of developer types actively enjoy the simplest possible visual design, and enjoy the thrill of conquering something that's a little bit technically hard. But not all. And none of them enjoy searching & searching and being unable to find the thing.)

If you don't to make money off your work, great. But if you want people to use it, you have to market it, that's just the way it works. It's not good enough to simply make something you want to make and stick it out there. Just being "free" and "open" isn't enough.

If more open source developers would take the time to learn how to effectively promote their own work, the world would be a better place. But sadly, because most OSS developers belong to a group that considers marketing "evil," and has a chip-on-the-shoulder reaction to the idea that marketing is required for even free-as-in-beer projects, it won't happen.

Re: Showoff

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I second the dark contrast point. My first reaction on the site was "omg, what can I do to put some color and some life here". I even tried playing with the bookmarks on the top right corner to see if they would light up the site.

I kept expecting a bright background image to load, or a dynamic popup to appear. Even fully loaded, the page looks incomplete.

I just did a quick article on the design: Showoff.io feedback and design impressions - http://nerdr.com/startup-showoff-io-first-impressions-and-fe...

Re: Showoff

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post #203

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The payment plan provides easy named URLs at showoff.io currently. This is the first minimally viable version. More features are forthcoming.

> This is the first minimally viable version. This one sentence transformed my opinion from "huh, I can do that myself" to "cool, I'll look forward to seeing what else these guys come up with". Well done for launching your MVP :)

Thanks for the kind words. The team hopes to not keep you waiting too long. :)
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