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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by gfxgirl »

pmontra wrote: post #52
manuelabeledo wrote: post #19

I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

Users of TVs, wow. I remember when they were not more difficult to use than a door bell. I'm always more convinced that I'll end up with a monitor, a Raspberry, a stereo speaker and possibly a DVBT decoder.

Do you know of a place to get an OLED (or better) 60inch 4k monitor that's a reasonable price?

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Post by trynumber9 »

snarfy wrote: post #29

Samsung really needs to just flush their entire software division. It's all garbage. Their android software is a frustrating joke. Tizen is a hot mess. Every issue I've ever had with a samsung product was with their software, and it's why I've sworn off the brand as a whole.

I replaced my Pixel 2 with a Samsung S20 and I haven't had any problems with the software. In fact I like it. Perhaps I have poor taste in phones but it seems it isn't just me given their sales relative to Google phones.

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Post by xoxoy »

troydavis wrote: post #34

If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…

this is Roku’s entire business model as well shrug

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

grey_earthling wrote: post #185
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…

Tangent: what interface do you use instead of Kodi etc? On my (Silverblue) laptop I've been using a simple video player (Celluloid), youtube_dl/get_iplayer/bashpodder, plus a bash script to select and play the “next” episode. That works nicely for recorded/downloaded audio and video, but doesn't address live streams.

I don’t use anything special: VLC instead of Celluloid. Web browser for YouTube, Netflix,, Disney+, Hulu, Amazon Prime Video, bbc iplayer (I use FoxyProxy UK proxy since I’m not in the UK), ITV.

I also have an HDTV antenna and use the Samsung remote to switch inputs for it, but it is rarely used (broadcast TV content just sucks where I am), although there is also locast.org if you like that.

That’s a lot of content for me, but I still sometimes use Stream.io (also with FoxyProxy VPN) to stream films from Pirate Bay instead of downloading.

And if I want to watch download/save something or watch content I already stored, I have a synology NAS that’s mounted over SMB ( or NFS?) for that. There’s also a DVD player in the ancient PC but we don’t use it (however VLC plays dvds just fine).

Honestly this is much more quality content than me or my family could ever consume.

The family does not mind the keyboards/touchpad interface for the TV even though they don’t know Linux... UI is so simple it does not matter.

I did increase font size even though it’s a 65-inch screen.

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Post by Vrondi »

pbronez wrote: post #197
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung can still try to connect to open WiFi networks. Not accepting the EULA makes this irrelevant.

Ugh are you telling me that these TVs are aggressively trying to find and connect to unsecured Wi-Fi to upload data I don’t want them to have over an unsecure connection I don’t control? Gross.

Time for some HN user to break one of these TVs open and physically remove the antenna or wifi card.

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Post by beagle3 »

stevewodil wrote: post #179
beagle3 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats unlikely to be true. Computer screens if comparable sizes (the ones that exist) have dipped in price in the same way, despite having no ads or apps or anything. The prices are down because of process improvements and competition. Ads can make a $10-30 difference in final price.

Do you have a source for ads accounting for $10-30 of the final price? I'd be curious to learn more about this.

I don't off hand, that's what I remember from past reading. However, for comparison, Facebook - one of the two undisputed masters (and essentially only players) of online advertising makes It's possible ACR is worth more to them than ads -- becoming a new Nielsen; but I would be very surprised.

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/234056/facebooks-average...

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Post by [deleted] »

troydavis wrote: post #34

If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…

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