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iOS 14 is available today

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Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Hnaomyiph »

munk-a wrote: post #81

Oh how exciting - now if they only removed their restriction of OS installations on old devices then maybe I could make use of it. As it is it's just another nail in the coffin for me ever being able to download an app ever again because their app store doesn't do backwards compatibility well and everything needs to go through the app store.

Not sure why this is getting lots of downvotes.

EOL devices should be opened up for whatever software a user wants to put on it. Jailbreaking seems like a somewhat viable option, though, but even that comes with its own issues.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by jedberg »

vxNsr wrote: post #7
mumblerino wrote: post #6

In 10 years, this is the first time I installed a beta version. It suffered a couple of issues, but they’ve been ironed out in my case. I really love the new app drawer. My hundred barely-used apps are now neatly stowed there while I keep a single (Yes, one) Home Screen. Widgets are nice but from what I understand they’re updated only once every 5 minutes, which makes them a lot less useful.

I've always arranged my homescreen to be a single screen with folders for each category of app. makes it much easier to find things. I'm always befuddled when I see ppl with 30 pages of apps.

For me, the first page of the home screen are the apps I use the most, with the most used apps in the middle. That way I can get to them in one click quickly with muscle memory. So is the second page, again for quicker access.

I used to keep the third and beyond pages in folders, but on my last phone I got lazy and just use spotlight search as an app launcher.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by chadstur »

grugagag wrote: post #175
ghostpepper wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're hanging onto it, like me, because it's small and not because it's cheap, there are rumours that the launch of the iPhone 12 in October will include a 5.4" model. It would be the smallest they've released since the original SE, and will have flat edges too.

I'm holding onto mine because it still meets my needs, very well I would say. Why upgrade when I really don't need to? Second, I've grown to know Apple and am sure they will add improvements to the new model, probably fantastic improvements but but they will probably take something away as well, something that I am using now and don't want to be forced to change. I don't know what, maybe the phones jack or something.…

I love my original SE. upgraded to latest SE because i needed the LTE bands my carrier, T-Mobile, is broadcasting on more rural sites.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by m-p-3 »

applecrazy wrote: post #195
chooseaname wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That mail bug is annoying. I don't get why Apple can't push their apps out to their app store and update them separately so it doesn't take an iOS update. The only reason I can think of is to force people to always stay on the latest iOS version, but that's anti-user, so surely that's not the reason. ;)

They technically are on the App Store, just not updated through that channel.

Seems odd they're not taking advantage of their own app store to update these apps without requiring an OS update. Even Google does it on Android.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by stouset »

vxNsr wrote: post #8

As usual you're probably better off waiting for iOS 14.1 that will be out next week to clear up whatever UX breaking bugs they didn't catch during beta in this version.

Can we please stop posting dozens of clones of this exact same comment from people who haven't actually used iOS 14?

Even if it wasn't simply low-effort and repetitive, I haven't seen a single instance of a person who's used the beta corroborate this pessimism. Quite the opposite: every single one of these comments has replies by users of the beta that haven't noticed significant problems and generally seem to believe it's a solid update.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by vxNsr »

wayneftw wrote: post #93
filleokus wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just swipe down for Spotlight and use that as an app launcher, so I'll probably love the app drawer. I'm equally baffled by people doing it any other way :-) Do you organise your applications on your computer by category as well?

I organize them by category and I can tap twice faster than you can swipe, type, tap. This way is easily faster if you have a reasonable number of apps. Typing to find things would only be faster if you had more than say 220 apps. Even if I have to tap, swipe, tap - that would be faster than swipe, type, tap.

Also this encourages you not to have more than 9 apps in a single category. I break this rule often, but I do try pretty hard not to.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by dhosek »

m-p-3 wrote: post #204
applecrazy wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They technically are on the App Store, just not updated through that channel.

Seems odd they're not taking advantage of their own app store to update these apps without requiring an OS update. Even Google does it on Android.

With Android, it's not so much that Google does it out of choice but because they have no control of most of the phones and there were (still are?) huge numbers of phones which don't even have access to OS updates or get them very late. Google was forced to pull a lot of functionality out of the OS level to be able to keep people up to date.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by bob1029 »

t0mbstone wrote: post #57

I'm not touching that update with a 10 foot pole. Not until it's been live for at least a week, and developers have had a chance to actually update their apps for it! Honestly, that's just good policy on all Apple updates lately. It seems that more and more of them have been plagued with issues and are trailed by hotfixes. I've learned to just wait a while. Other people can be the test guinea pigs!

I am very skittish around iOS ecosystem, and am responsible for keeping a 6+ year old iOS app running. It's not a very complicated app and it uses almost no permissions or services aside from camera & GPS, but we got burned a few times with breaking iOS changes over the years. I think we started w/ iOS 8. That said, I haven't seen a breaking change since 11, and I just got done with some initial test scenarios on 14 without concerns.

I just told my team to go ahead and update to 14 because at the least our app will open and run through some basic scenarios without any issues. Now I just need everyone to exercise all the code paths over the next week to be sure.

To be very clear, our app is not on the public store and is distributed using the enterprise program. This allows us some freedom as the Apple devices running our app are exclusively for the app and we have some leeway in telling our customers to hold off on the latest iOS if we need to. They have MDM and policy which allows for this level of control.

If we had this app on the public store, I would be in a state of total panic right now.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by [deleted] »

dylan604 wrote: post #132
rafaelturk wrote: post #17

Now run and update your app... we're caught by surprise on this release

I've seen this a lot lately. I'm not an app developer, so forgive the ignorance. What was the surprise? The actual release date? Does Apple normally send out an email to devs saying you have 1 week until it drops? From my experience with Apple, the GM was always a closely held secret and divulging knowledge was grounds for loss of Apple privileges. Just curious what is so different this time.

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