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Post by metiscus »

lopmotr wrote: post #195
vkou wrote: post #47

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The founding fathers were so concerned about this, that the US was also founded as a representative democracy, where the only people whose opinions counted were wealthy white landowning men. Let's not look at a model where less than 2% of the population could vote as some brilliant stroke of foresight. It was created by aristocrats for aristocrats. Mind you, this post does not advocate for direct democracy, but the o…

It's still true that only about 2% of people can vote in America today. That's because it's a right restricted to members of the privileged citizen class. You might say that foreigners shouldn't vote because it doesn't affect them, but it does. America has a lot of influence over other countries whose citizens are as helpless as blacks and women back then.

I think your math is a bit off. More than 2 percent of the US population voted in the previous election. Unless you are claiming that 330 million over the entire world population is 2 percent and thus only the people located in America (or citizens overseas) can vote which is and should be true.

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Post by qppo »

sova wrote: post #102
jeswin wrote: post #31

What I wish India would do is this: force Chinese phone companies to ship stock Android and full source code. They sell hundreds of millions of phones in India and will have to find middle ground, and the outcome will be good for everyone.

Okay, source code, then what about chip schematics and everything on the hardware layer you can't audit for?

How do you verify the chip on a schematic is the chip on the device you purchase?

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Post by chanmad29 »

shalmanese wrote: post #187
yumraj wrote: post #182

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You forgot Chineses government subsidy to get a backdoored phone in the hands of the masses in an enemy nation.

You significantly overestimate the geopolitical value of users who wouldn't buy a phone for $35 but will buy a phone for $30.

Likely India was a market that was super price sensitive, but based on anecdotal info, I think users have already started to get pickier.

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Post by greycol »

cooljacob204 wrote: post #101
searchableguy wrote: post #71

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> Ads in default apps, user data collection and selling the said collected data. That's almost everyone. Yesterday, I opened a brand new budget samsung phone. Despite not logging in anything and declining every box I could, it was automatically filled with invasive apps. It came with made in India sticker. At least with xiaomi, I can flash it with a custom rom and remove the bloatware. Many alternatives lock down the…

Yup, I bought an S8+ and after the terrible experience with bloatware and Bixby I have sworn off buying a Samsung phone again. Over the past few years it has updated and installed new bloatware multiple times and even re-enabled Facebook background services.

I flashed my s8+ with LineageOS 4 or 5 months ago and am happy with the results.

You'll need to check if your snapdragon or exynos for compatability.

It gets you the latest version of android (since samsung decided that 2 years is all they're willing to support their flagship phone for) and a complete lack of bloatware.

I'll add that some apps (noteably netflix and banking) can throw a hissy fit on rooted phones and you will have to use something like Magisk to get the app store to function correctly and allow you to download the apps.

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Post by nfc_ »

ideals wrote: post #54

So far in the news (that I consume) I only see countries being agressive towards Chinese software companies. I can't imagine this goes on and continues escalating long before China reacts strongly. What is China's response going to look like? I feel uneasy that their response is going to light the fire even more.

India heavily depends on software consulting and BPO exports for its foreign currency (over 100 billion usd per year).

If China really wants to retaliate, it can sanction the WITCH companies and force any multinational who wants to be in China to not use them. This will also benefit competitors in other developing countries like Phillipines or Pakistan.

India is playing with fire here. Especially dropping out of RCEP, the risk being encircled economically.

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Post by nfc_ »

d3nj4l wrote: post #65
nmridul wrote: post #18

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Xiaomi now makes their phones in India. https://in.event.mi.com/in/made-in-india

Only 65% of the value, and tbh, the R&D is in China, and most of the data collection that mi does benefits China much more than India. Hard to call it a phone "By India For India."

Yes following this logic India should emulate North Korea's Juche or go back to its old socialist days to keep 100% of the valye

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Post by phre4k »

qppo wrote: post #202
sova wrote: post #102

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Okay, source code, then what about chip schematics and everything on the hardware layer you can't audit for?

How do you verify the chip on a schematic is the chip on the device you purchase?

X-ray it.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by senojretep356 »

RandoHolmes wrote: post #122
mayankkaizen wrote: post #93

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This is typical HN mentality to assume that other people are comparatively well versed in technical aspects. 99% indians (may be a little exaggerated figure) don't have any clue about VPN. Most don't even know how to side-install any app. So government actions do have some significance.

I don't think so. I knew an Iranian women who told me in Iran everyone knew how to setup and configure a VPN due to the restrictions they have in place. It's that way western countries because we don't have such restrictions.

India and Iran are not really comparable in terms of government control.

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Post by kranner »

pagan42 wrote: post #154
addicted wrote: post #149

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The ruling government has destroyed the Indian economy with its arbitrary decisions. And sometimes the get the judiciary to chip in as well. The first real disaster to the Indian economy was the billions in retroactive taxes that were applied to telecoms. And then the attempt made by the government to break through the corporate firewalls and extract that money from foreign parents. That hit FDI immediately. That was…

Please cite your sources, exactly and to the point. Lockdown if executed in any way would have been abused by the people. People went on a rampage in *religious ( Taliban linked)" gatherings, India didn't had much cases but these bunch of people made sure the cases spread. It's the people to he blamed for the lockdown spread

The Aurangabad branch of the Bombay High Court has quashed cases against members of the Tablighi Jamaat (which parent seems to be confusing with the Taliban) and said that they were made "scapegoats". [1]

In any case, large gatherings in both religious and political contexts have continued during lockdown. The lockdown has had no apparent success in reducing the rate of new infections. [2]

[1] https://indianexpress.com/article/india/tablighi-jamaat-case...

[2] https://www.ft.com/content/53d946cf-d4c2-4cc4-9411-1d5bb3566...

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