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Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by briandear »

zaroth wrote: post #155
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #92

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~3% or less.

~3% plus some fixed transaction fee. So for low dollar amount charges, like a $1.00 app purchase, the transaction fee can be > 30% (e.g. 2.9% + $0.30 on Stripe).

So selling an App for a dollar using stripe, you get $0.67. With the App Store, you get $0.70.

And for that stripe fee you still have to have your own store, download infrastructure, and website to sell it on. A website that you also have to build, maintain, and market. And you have to deal with chargebacks and customer support during the buying process.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by ac29 »

zucker42 wrote: post #199
matchbok wrote: post #189

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Credit card companies.... already have those rules. No store can just offer a cheaper cash price. It’s in the agreements.

I've seen many gas stations offer cheaper cash prices. Here's an article which claims credit card surcharges are disallowed but cash discounts are not. https://www.cardfellow.com/blog/cash-discount-eliminate-proc...

Credit card surcharges have been allowed in many states for a number of years now: https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/merchants/surcharging...

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by pmontra »

ffpip wrote: post #76
sschueller wrote: post #35

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The play store is getting worse and worse. It will eventually end up being just a bad. Meanwhile every iteration of Android is getting more locked down because of "security". No more external cameras etc.. The future look bleak until we get a true open source alternative running on open hardware.

God. I just stopped opening the play store. Everything is ads and autoplaying videos. I added the update shortcut to homescreen to go straight to updates

This is not my experience but

1. I use the store only for free apps

2. I use Blockada which blocks ads even inside apps https://blokada.org/ Download it from F-Droid, not from the Play Store. Google doesn't allow the full functionality version on its store.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by ac29 »

nurettin wrote: post #194
AlexandrB wrote: post #182

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This is straight up false, at least in my jurisdiction. When I buy apps or in app purchases I get charged a separate 13% HST (Ontario sales tax) on top of the listed price.

What is false?

The 30% apple fee does not cover taxes/VAT. Those costs are added on top.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by Bombthecat »

cwhiz wrote: post #108
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #20

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> If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top of the regular fees to make consumers aware If you don't know that, it is not allowed to sell for more in iOS than in your site, and the app will get banned for attempting that, forget about displaying 30% apple tax to the users explicitly. Edit: Heard from somewhere, likely not f…

This is not correct. You can charge whatever you like. You just aren’t allowed to have line items like “Apple tax” or words blaming Apple for the price.

Kodi call it appstore tax or so? Since Google did the same.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by londons_explore »

LeonB wrote: post #177
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #157

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I wonder if Apple did start requiring the IAP price to be the same as the price everyone else pays - would that definitely be illegal? I have a B2B app in the app-store which only has a login-screen on the app - so hopefully that won't attract Apple's attention, but if they do I was thinking about making our service-fee an Apple Pay ("real-life") purchase with lower fees where we'd mail the customer a brick with an a…

A normal business would not get away with that as it is an unreasonable request. If apple were to do that then it would only be because of their market power. Hence they’d be (further and more clearly) demonstrating that they are in breach of anti trust laws. So yes, my guess is it would be clearly illegal.

Airbnb and booking.com get away with requirements not to list the same property elsewhere for less money.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by anticensor »

nicky0 wrote: post #163
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

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This is really sad. On the one hand, sure Apple should be able to make a cut on their app store, on the other hand, they shouldn't be allowed to force apps to do this sort of thing. This will only drive domain prices higher on iOS in order to compensate (in the case of Automattic). If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top…

Put that way it's really a 42% Apple tax.

It is an Apple App Store VAT actually. Way higher than VAT rates around the world (the world average is ~20%).

VAT: value-added tax

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by d3nj4l »

JeremyNT wrote: post #100
kuzimoto wrote: post #12

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> I am very privacy, open-source, freedom orientated I like to think I am as well. How do you balance this when moving from Apple to Android, where Apple (seems) to be much more privacy-focused and basically at zero for open-source/freedom, where Android is basically the reverse? I think there are ways to make it better (custom ROM, alternative app stores), but you give up a lot of functionality (Play Store, Google P…

You can use stock Android without a Google account. You can avoid the Google Play Store, disable most google default provided apps, and sideload apps of your choosing. You can use a browser (such as Firefox) that the phone vendor has no control over. You can even install an alternate app store. This sounds like what the parent is doing, and it's the best mainstream experience for anybody looking for a privacy and sec…

Doesn't GPS on android use Google Play Services for location? In many apps, I'm asked to turn on Google's location services if I have them off. Would that not automatically send data to Google, even if you aren't logged in?

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by zelly »

fermienrico wrote: post #10
turblety wrote: post #5

I know I really don't matter to Apple, but this walled garden and app store dictatorship is what finally made me move away from iOS to Android last year. I had used Android in the past, but it was with Samsung Galaxy's which where very bloated and awful when compared to Apple. But when a friend told me that Samsung just ruin Android [1] and I should try an actual Google phone, I bought a Pixel and it's honestly great…

Unpopular opinion that I hold: The walled garden is exactly why I love Apple's iPhone. iPhone keeps the rifraff away, third-party sniffers at check, they've recently added clipboard notification if some app tries to paste random stuff from my clipboard (given that we use it so much for 1Password and other password managers). I absolutely do not trust any third party - there are some insane apps like LinkedIn that tri…

Most of the world agrees with you which is why they keep buying iPhones as soon as they can afford them
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