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The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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post #188

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Nah you don’t read more than me. It’s funny that someone who claims to read so much can’t get through an article because it’s “too long”. I’m pretty sure you don’t read very much.

Oh, but I do read more than you, and in more languages. People who are smug like you and think people reading too little are "the problem with our country" read very little themselves. They tend to assume the world is as small as they are, and overplay their meager achievements like reading through a New Yorker article.

The problem isn’t people reading too little. It’s that people such as yourself only read a fraction of an informative article and stop because it’s “too long”. They read the headline and skim the article and get whatever their limited comprehension gets from it, and then proclaims they know what the article is saying when they don’t. Pretty much sums exactly what you were saying. I can only imagine the high level of misinformation you must have in your brain by never finishing so many “long” articles in so many different languages. What a mess!

Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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What I find most reprehensible about this whole situation is that more and more members of the left regulate political discourse, no make that any discourse, by defining any opposing view as illegitimate, bigoted, and now violence. As in, they are taking the position that their moral superiority is without question and anyone who does not ascribe to this has no rights and we are nearing the point of the same having n…

Moral superiority is straight from the playbook of the right. Look at the justifications for opposing abortions and supporting xenophobia: doing right by God. Many conservatives in the U.S. operate with their views supposedly ordained by their deity and backed up by 2000 year old verse, and it doesn't get any more morally superior than that.

Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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post #93

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The other half cancelled their subscription because they fired the editor, so they lose-lose really.

They fired the editor because he admitted he himself “did not read the piece”. Seems like a fireable offense to print something you didn’t read, when it is quite literally your job to. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/busi...

I bet he didn't read the piece, if he had he would have known it would have pissed off their base.

Notice how they didn't say HOW the OPINION piece didn't meet their standard.

Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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post #130

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So, our president literally said to use violence against protestors protesting bigotry. When you find yourself being called a bigot and white supremacist repeatedly, its probably not "the left" that's the problem.

The mirror image of the problem on the left is exactly what you describe on the right. One doesn't have to be correct for the other to be incorrect.

The difference is the people on the left calling for the death of republicans are regulated to their twitter echo chambers, and the republicans calling for the death of protestors are republican senators publishing their views in the new york times.

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Is ending centuries of systemic racism and extra-judicial killings at the hands of police worth some insured property damage? Tom Cotton doesn't think so.

It wasn't just property damage, and insurance isn't magic. David Dorn, a black ex-police officer, and 14 other people died due to the unhandled looting. If they would have sent National Guard in to protect storefronts those deaths would have never happened. Those peaceful protesters deserve protection from the looters as well btw.

The peaceful protesters explicitely don't want that. You may disagree with them, but don't pretend it is for them.

Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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post #206

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It wasn't just property damage, and insurance isn't magic. David Dorn, a black ex-police officer, and 14 other people died due to the unhandled looting. If they would have sent National Guard in to protect storefronts those deaths would have never happened. Those peaceful protesters deserve protection from the looters as well btw.

The peaceful protesters explicitely don't want that. You may disagree with them, but don't pretend it is for them.

I do disagree, and it is for their safety, many of them are getting hurt.

I don't care if they want it or not, if they don't, they don't know what's good for them.

Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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Conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan was separated from New York Magazine. He quickly found a platform in other magazine. While I disagree with Andrew a lot, I dont think he should have been censored.

Where are you seeing that Sullivan has left New York Magazine?

(Sullivan should shut up about this particular controversy; he has not covered himself in glory on this issue in the past, and has no extra credibility here to burn).

Re: The American Press Is Destroying Itself

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Thing is, when the New York Times was "the newspaper of record", everyone read it. When they only print what will pass muster with the howling mob, for fear of losing their jobs if they offend, then only the howling mob will read it. But the howling mob doesn't have enough members to support the New York Times. That is, catering to the most vocal segment of the Right Thinkers is a ticket to an ever-shrinking readersh…

People also seem to be unaware that howling mobs move on ...you just have to wait them out. Stand firm and they'll quickly find another target to bully.

Case in point: remember last year when the governor and the AG (I think?) of Virginia were caught in blackface 30 years ago and the lieutenant governor was revealed to have raped a woman in college 20 years ago? And they all refused to resign? Everyone forgot about that a month later.
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