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Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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When I lived in Brooklyn, the standard at most fruit/veg vendors was to have the best stuff inside and the bruised stuff outside (e.g., at 40cents/lb discount.) We usually brought from the outside and did the math on whether the recoverable portion was worth the discount. Unfortunately the supermarkets do not work this way -- they seem to have one class of goods. I'm not sure what happens to their bruised goods, but…

I believe supermarkets then sell it to the next group, which are restaurants or wholesale purchasers that send to factories. Highly unlikely that non-rotten food of supermarket quality is wasted.

I live in the US and 10 years ago ate almost entirely out of dumpsters. Grocery stores throw out perfectly good food every day. If you ask in front they'll say they donate it, but in back there's a dumpster full of cartons of eggs with one egg cracked, and packaged food that's a day past its sell-by date. We waste an absurd amount of food.

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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My experience with online food shopping has been mixed. They actually did a good job of picking veggies for me. My family doesn't eat a lot of meat, so that's not super important. The headaches are in ordering and delivery. The ordering systems have the look and feel of having been bought from one vendor, while their inventory system is from another, and never the twain shall meet. Bar codes were invented for invento…

I had the same thought about delivery-only stores. Honestly, I'm in support of it. I hate driving. But grocery stores are not up to the task right now with order and delivery systems.

Or enough people willing to do the actual delivering for the usual shit pay.

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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Playing devil's advocate: an enormous amount of food waste is caused by people simply refusing to buy ugly food. It's literally less wasteful to shave off most of a carrot so that it's a baby carrot, than to try to sell the same carrots as-is. There's nothing wrong with the ugly carrots--but they'll rot on the shelves. Bruised apples are perfectly edible. Maybe you just don't like them, and that's fine--there's no ac…

> Playing devil's advocate: an enormous amount of food waste is caused by people simply refusing to buy ugly food. In London there's a startup which sells such rejected, ugly fruit and veg: https://www.oddbox.co.uk/ (no affiliation beyond being a happy customer)

Considering their stated purpose, the fruit and veg in their marketing are remarkably photogenic

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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We decided to order a bunch of things from Costco a few weeks ago through instacart. Actually we decided to do it before then, but the site was broken for a bit. It was crazy expensive. Not only the delivery fee, the tip, etc. But every item was marked up significantly over the in-store price, with no indication that was the case. We even pulled out some old receipts to verify this price difference. Apparently part o…

Yeah I used Costco for a bit, than realized is about 20% more for us. Since Costco requires everyone to have masks I feel confident going there. It would be better if they were more transparent about it...

FWIW you should "powerwash" all the groceries at home anyways.

Also last I checked, Walmart has free delivery and same price as in store. But I've heard their employees just grab anything for you...so quality of produce is YMMV.

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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If I read all that, do I get my $60 back? No? Then I don't care. It's The Wrong Way.

Huh? No, you'd read that and then not order it in the first place.

> not order it in the first place

Which was OP's conclusion so I'm not sure why understanding the nuances of the pricing is helpful

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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Our local store, QFC in Seattle, has been doing a great job of selecting produce for our curbside delivery. Quality has matched or beaten what I normally select myself. I don't know where they're finding such huge broccoli crowns, but they're consistently doing so (we're ordering per crown, and paying per-pound, so the incentives are aligned there). On substitutions -- they require customer review of every substituti…

Your local QFC is really a Kroger btw

Maybe technically in terms of ownership, but the QFC brand stands from Kroger IMO. I've never felt such joy in a grocery store.

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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We decided to order a bunch of things from Costco a few weeks ago through instacart. Actually we decided to do it before then, but the site was broken for a bit. It was crazy expensive. Not only the delivery fee, the tip, etc. But every item was marked up significantly over the in-store price, with no indication that was the case. We even pulled out some old receipts to verify this price difference. Apparently part o…

We had the same experience as well. When lockdown started, we did a couple of Instacart orders and recommended it to people, until I found out about the stacked charges. If it was just a delivery fee + tip, I'm fine with that, even a transparent fixed percentage. The deception and realizing how much the per-item surcharge + delivery fee + tip was coming out to made me stop using them. Recently I've been using curb-side pickup from stores and its surprisingly convenient and no cost associated. The store workers even refused the cash tip I offered when they came to the car!

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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If these companies cannot turn a profit and provide sustainable employment during a mandatory lockdown then there is no hope for this business model.

I’d love to have a maid come by and fold my underwear for $1 a day but unless VC decides to dump a couple $100M chasing that pipe dream it’s not going to happen either.

Re: Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than buy food online

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We have been having a good experience with the Walmart grocery pick-up app, good enough that I would consider still using it after social distancing is over. There's a few factors that go into this. First and most importantly, it's completely free with no markups, tips or extra charges. I can edit the order right up until the night before, so it's quite convenient to add things as I think of them throughout the week.…

Wal-Mart has the best pickup/delivery web experience out of the four that I've tried as well (the others being Meijer, Target, and Instacart).

They're not my first choice of places to shop, but being able to reserve a slot a full week in advance before you even have to start putting together your order, being able to choose which items can be substituted and which cannot, and being able to add to the order up until about 12 hours before it's scheduled to happen are all pretty nice features that the other places don't seem to have.

And the prices not being any more expensive other than a small flat fee (and tipping the delivery driver if you choose delivery) is nice.

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