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Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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Capital gains is 20% federal plus state (13% in California). Germany’s capital gains rate is 30.5%, lower than California and New York. Regardless, there is just not enough capital gains income for that to matter. For example, Biden’s plan to tax capital gains as ordinary income for taxpayers making over $1 million per year is expected to bring in less than $50 billion a year in revenues. Eliminating the capital gain…

> Tim Cook’s tax rate on his $135 million bonus a few years ago was 52% This is the kind of selective data that makes this subject so infurating to argue about. I'm sure this fact is true. But what you're trying to imply is that Tim Cook's overall tax payments were very high, and that's not remotely true at all! A bonus is one of the few bits of income he has, in fact, that is taxed as routine "income" that the rest…

There’s nothing selective about my data. I gave the top line numbers—Biden’s proposal to eliminate the preferential capital gains rate on people with more than $1 million a year in income would raise only $50 billion annually. Cook’s bonus is just an illustration of why that number is so low—even very wealthy people make most of their money through ordinary income. Capital gains amounts to just 5% of all income.

Most economists agree that capital gains should be taxed lower than ordinary income, which is why most developed countries including social democracies have preferential capital gains rates.

And again, why do you care about the taxation of the super wealthy so much? Even if we taxed capital gains at the level of Denmark (9 points more than California) would raise less than $70 billion a year. Even Warren’s completely bonkers wealth tax (which would have had a top rate four times higher than Sweden did before it got rid of the wealth tax) would have raised only 10% of what Warren was proposing in new spending. Why spend so much time talking about a potential source of revenue that would do so little to actually increase the government’s ability to provide social services—even if we taxed the wealthy far in excess of European countries?

It’s as massive effort in deception. People don’t want to put their money where their mouths are. They want Medicare for All—but only if someone else pays for it. If proponents of these social were forthright in asserting that wealth taxes or whatever would only pay for 10%, and European-style taxes on the middle class would be required to pick up the rest of the tab, support for these proposals would evaporate: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/millennials-soc...

> When tax rates are not explicit, millennials say they’d prefer larger government offering more services (54 percent) to smaller government offering fewer services (43 percent). However when larger government offering more services is described as requiring high taxes, support flips and 57 percent of millennials opt for smaller government with fewer services and low taxes, while 41 percent prefer large government.

For what it’s worth, I’m pro paying higher taxes. I’d be happy to pay what people in Germany pay at my tax bracket. But only if middle class taxes also go up. Otherwise, there is no point—we won’t be able to tackle the big ticket items like universal healthcare without the trillions in revenue we could raise through a 10% VAT, a 10% payroll tax, etc.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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This is a touchy subject but with my genetic condition I’m scared to have kids. It sucks having this and I don’t know if I would want to watch my kids suffer through it. But I’m glad my parents did cause life isn’t that bad in the end.

I didn't get a diagnosis until my kids were like 11 and 14, I think. I didn't have to think about that aspect, in part because my first child was the result of failed birth control. I was already married, so I didn't consider having an abortion. But when I was having kids, I was still being treated like I was a hypochondriac . I sometimes refer to my diagnosis as "a better name for my condition than crazy."

Real Talk:

no one is trying to kill you for profit. They just don't care about you because you're can't make money for them. It's still bad, but different.

You meet a lot of skeptics because no matter how honest or correct you are, without access to a large test population and a way to precisely measure your dozens of tiny ideas that add up to a healthier overall life, it's impossible for an outside observer to distinguish you from quacks like Gwyneth Paltrow.

Also, being upfront about your suffering makes people uncomfortable and avoidant. Not your fault, but that's life.

You have a lot of disappointment with HN, largely because you see all these rich people who like talking to you but won't invest in you.

My advice: take a lesson from them. Put on a fake happy face, rewrite your narrative so that your pain is in your past, copy the obnoxious marketing techniques that smell foul but work.

You're in a "line" where everyone thinks you are bullshitting. If you can't beat it, join it. Run your effort the same way the dishonest snake oil salesmen do, and use your own conscience to tell you you are doing good. Make a little money selling whatever to health fad chasers, and put that money to good use as you see fit. Answer to no one but your conscience, but behaving in the way "polite society" demands, not because they are right, but because that's how you'll get paid attention and money.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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post #108
post #16

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I did not recognise the username, but will take that into consideration for future. For me, it looked like a request for money and I felt it was not right, but I see I am mistaken and would like to apologise to Michele.

That's really nice of you, and I'm sure not only she but everyone reading this will feel a bit better for it.

Are all your "nots" in the right places?

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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post #184

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I worked at an international company where we frequently had employees from other countries visit the US for a while. Some even chose to relocate to the US. These were almost all technical people, raised on the Internet, social media, and discussions in comment sections. It was fascinating to see how bad they expected America to be according to Internet comments and news articles. Many of them were shocked to realize…

I don't buy it, due to first-hand & second-hand experiences of friends and relatives I have in the US. Let me give you one example: my friend(and at the time business partner)'s wife got cancer in the US. It was fairly "mundane"/common cancer that got treated and everything was alright at the end. He was working as a software developer (normal employee, not self-employed - our venture was a side project) with the afo…

If I had cancer in the US a $65k bill really isn’t bad. Consider in the US taxes are typically In Germany (if I recall) it’s closer to 50% taxes so $50k a year.

Presumably you can expect cancer once or less, but effectively you only need ~4 years of income to make up for that $65k bill in the US. Not bad at all. Obviously that differs based on income, but you can a see how (for many people in the US) the system works great

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

#206

I don't understand people who have serious hereditary medical conditions and have children. Yes, I know that "I just don't get it". Though I do have friends for whom serious illness in the family is the reason they don't have biological children. I do find it a bit selfish to reject adopting a child (and thus presumably making that child's life better), instead of essentially saying "no, I only care about my own gene…

I don't know, why do people try to propagate their genes? I'm sure you've got a better handle on the situation the the force of billions of years of evolutionary history.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

#207
post #184

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I don't buy it, due to first-hand & second-hand experiences of friends and relatives I have in the US. Let me give you one example: my friend(and at the time business partner)'s wife got cancer in the US. It was fairly "mundane"/common cancer that got treated and everything was alright at the end. He was working as a software developer (normal employee, not self-employed - our venture was a side project) with the afo…

If I had cancer in the US a $65k bill really isn’t bad. Consider in the US taxes are typically In Germany (if I recall) it’s closer to 50% taxes so $50k a year. Presumably you can expect cancer once or less, but effectively you only need ~4 years of income to make up for that $65k bill in the US. Not bad at all. Obviously that differs based on income, but you can a see how (for many people in the US) the system works…

Total income-related taxes+health insurance in California are IIRC similar or higher than Germany. Also in either case the taxes on $100k/year are way less than 50%.

EDIT from what I can tell from very quick googling total taxes on $100k in California would be ~29% (not including health insurance) where as in Germany they would be ~34% (on $100k = ~€92k, including health insurance).

So I guess whatever's better in that example depends on if you think German health insurance is worth 5% of your income. Your $500/m amount to 6% of income so similar to Germany either way.

Keep in mind this is for single & childless, and Germany has outrageously generous tax breaks for having children as well as being married when one spouse earns a lot less than the other.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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post #184

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I don't buy it, due to first-hand & second-hand experiences of friends and relatives I have in the US. Let me give you one example: my friend(and at the time business partner)'s wife got cancer in the US. It was fairly "mundane"/common cancer that got treated and everything was alright at the end. He was working as a software developer (normal employee, not self-employed - our venture was a side project) with the afo…

If I had cancer in the US a $65k bill really isn’t bad. Consider in the US taxes are typically In Germany (if I recall) it’s closer to 50% taxes so $50k a year. Presumably you can expect cancer once or less, but effectively you only need ~4 years of income to make up for that $65k bill in the US. Not bad at all. Obviously that differs based on income, but you can a see how (for many people in the US) the system works…

And what if you make the US median individual income of $31k?

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

#209
post #158

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That 630B ish is figure is more spin than reality. Excluding say the coast guard is reasonable if you’re talking offensive military capacity but “Defense” should reasonably include CIA, NSA, border security, and anti terrorism expenditures etc. Further, related pensions and VA benefits are clearly part of the overall defense budget. Exact interest on past military spending is arguable, but those bills still need to b…

No matter how you cut, a very large portion of taxes paid goes towards healthcare. 30% for social security, 30% minimum for healthcare. Military and interest costs therefore are clearly not the bigger portions of spending. https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-federal-budget-breakdown-3305... > The government expects to spend $4.829 trillion in 2021.1 Almost 60% of that pays for mandated benefits such as Social Security, Me…

Overall I agree, but I am pointing out how numbers are framed is really important. For example this puts Defense spending at 1T and heathcare at 1.7T, while leaving out several categories of both. https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2020USbn_...

I am not saying any specific number is correct, but that 1T figure excludes military pensions and heath care excludes related research spending. Neither includes any debt payments from past spending or projections of future obligations. In the end it is actually possible to construct a number for each where federal defense spending is greater than federal healthcare spending, but again I don’t agree with such categorizations.

PS: This gets back to the oldest trick in “cutting“ spending, define a portion as something else. Similarly, define a category of taxes as “income taxes“ so you can exclude payroll taxes when talking about them.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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Quite. That’s why the US pays for more pharmaceutical and medical device R&D than anyone else. The US is where every pharmaceutical company makes the profits that incentivize further drug development.

Or, in the case of Valeant Pharmaceuticals they just jacked the prices up after buying smaller drug companies and getting rid of all the R&D teams ... that doesn't seem to have incentivized further drug development by them, did it?

You are speaking of a specific anecdotal experience and he is talking about the industry in aggregate. Neither of you are invalidating the other's point.

The actual facts are in support of the posters point: https://www.abpi.org.uk/facts-and-figures/science-and-innova...

But your example is a real occurrence of abuse under the US system.

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