Covid-19’s impact on Tor • Hacker News Board

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by jacobsenscott » Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 5:01 AM UTC

tchaffee wrote: post #142

jacobsenscott wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a system to filter "real" information from "fake" information where distributing fake information is a lucrative business. It is called peer review, and it can be applied to news as well as science, and doesn't require some nefarious government czar.

Peer review of news by citizens is already done in an informal way based on what they click on and share. Even when you point someone to Snopes showing a news article is false, people will respond saying Snopes is run by lefties and cannot be trusted. All you are suggesting is mob rule - the majority decides what is fake news.

That's the opposite of peer review. Peer review means experts in the field review articles, not the unwashed masses.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by tchaffee » Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:30 PM UTC

jacobsenscott wrote: post #201

tchaffee wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Peer review of news by citizens is already done in an informal way based on what they click on and share. Even when you point someone to Snopes showing a news article is false, people will respond saying Snopes is run by lefties and cannot be trusted. All you are suggesting is mob rule - the majority decides what is fake news.

That's the opposite of peer review. Peer review means experts in the field review articles, not the unwashed masses.

That would be a horrible system for news. It would put a huge amount of power in the hands of whoever is determined to be an expert.

And I don't see how it fulfills your previous claim:

> and doesn't require some nefarious government czar.

Because someone has to decide who the experts are. Peer review in science is performed by those who have a degree from a government accredited institution.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by fapjacks » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:33 AM UTC

mr_woozy wrote: post #147

fapjacks wrote: post #134

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Nice use of quotation marks there, considering that is not what I said.

which part didn't you say exactly?

> "First they make a completely reasonable and temporary restriction of right of physical assembly, next we'll be off to the gulags."

Please find this text in my post.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by soulofmischief » Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 5:47 AM UTC

andrepd wrote: post #103

soulofmischief wrote: post #88

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In Robert D. Putnam's Bowling Alone , he talks about how several independent studies have elucidated that in modern times, civil engagement is at an all-time high when one considers the average number of civil group memberships per American (It's greater than one!), however the average number of Americans holding leadership positions within a civil group has plummeted. We also attend far fewer in-person events. The r…

>Local canvasing could be far more effective than distributing online propaganda. I tend to believe that, but are you aware of any studies that try to show that?

Nothing comes to mind, but I'll ping you if I come across any.