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Re: New iPhone SE

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"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

Yup. If it’s any consolation, consistent rumors have been pointing to a new, smaller size added to the flagship lineup this fall. It will supposedly have a similar footprint to the 5 series, but with the bezel-less screen like the modern models.

Smaller as in similar sized to the iPhone 8 (5.4") instead of the iPhone 11 (6.1") or 11 PRO (5.8").

https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-12/

I went from an iPhone 6 to an iPhone SE instead of the 8 over the size.

Re: New iPhone SE

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"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

It feels like the automotive industry's product lines. Gradually increase the size and shift it more towards luxury, then introduce a new economy product line. Maybe in 2022 we'll get the iPhone XSE.

Re: New iPhone SE

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As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected. Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even real…

I'm sure that's a huge help for people who like to check their notifications or other things on their phone while it's sitting on the desk without picking it up. There are tons of situation where your face is not in front of the phone yet you would still like to unlock it without contorting you or it, and how well face I'd work or not has nothing to do with it.

Re: New iPhone SE

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I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

Pixel 4 face unlock works for me with big aviator sunglasses as well as not. I forget if I added another face or not though. Though, it doesn't work with a mask on and its not as fast so I do miss the fingerprint sensor.

Re: New iPhone SE

#206

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

The sony xperia compact phone models were my go to for a while since they had covered all of that.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Glad to see a non faceID option. I'm on an 11 Pro currently, will probably sidegrade to this. FaceID is incredibly unreliable in my opinion, and it almost always takes more time that touchID did. Furthermore, "Reachability" (the feature where you slide the UI down for easy access with one hand) is much more difficult to access and dismiss with no home button. It's rare I don't accidentally invoke some UI action when…

Repeating myself here but for me FaceID actually does feel like an improvement, despite my many doubts about it in the beginning.

Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even realise it was locked. I just take it out of my pocket, swipe up and I'm on my home screen.

Agreed on reachability though, that has never worked well for me either. I just avoid using it now.

Re: New iPhone SE

#208

Now why can't we convince Android OEMs that decent specs in a small design is a worthwhile endeavor? The Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is the last one that comes to mind.

There's plenty of decent small Android phones. The problem is that they run Android.

No, there really aren't. Trust me, I spent days researching this and ended up with the Pixel 3A phablet that I hate. There are exactly zero decent Android phones <= 4.7".

Re: New iPhone SE

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Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

It isn't about the screen size - it's about the external dimensions. This is almost as large as the Pixel 4A, Samsung S10e or iPhone 11. You are only saving a couple grams and a few mm.

Hopefully the Sony Xperia 5 II comes out soon - it should be smaller than this.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Also, it's a slippery bugger. I've had my iPhone 8 for almost 2 years and now I'm working from home I've taken it out of it's case to fully enjoy the design. Honestly, probably easier to hold a live fish than this bloody phone.

TBF how many people don't use cases? At least wit rounded edges the after-case size can be smaller.

One could also ask the question "how many people would prefer to have a phone that didn't --need-- a case"?

Given the choice between a thin phone that needs a case and a phone that is as thick as a thin phone with a case that is more durable, possibly has a headphone jack and a slightly larger battery, I would personally go for the latter.

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