This is the absolute reason why Dart, Flutter and Fuchsia exist. You can now imagine that if a loss from Google in this lawsuit were to happen, it would mean royalties in the billions for Oracle which Google won't pay for, or at least for a long time for Android. So an option is to migrate the Android ecosystem onto Fuchsia to rid of the Oracle royalty fees and own the ecosystem without anyone else looking to sue you…
Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight
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> For god sakes you have Bloomberg running after half your party was just outside occupying wall street no less than 3 years ago. Independent of all the other points under discussion, I'm not sure how this is a fair a critique? It's not like there's a vote to decide who gets to run in a primary; the whole point of a primary is to vote to see who gets to run, and that isn't anywhere near being decided yet. If five mon…
It's a fair critique when he went from 4% to 19% in two weeks after spending 400 million on TV ads. I mean we all know the DNC will choose whomever they want because of their superdelegates, but don't act like democrats aren't starting to view him as their best option. You aren't the victim of division, you are the creator of it.
It's a testament to the power of completely controlling messaging people have about you because you are buying so much airtime to send your message and most of the country is at best vaguely aware of you otherwise, but I suspect as post-debate polling rolls in we're going to see Bloomberg, as many others have before, is going to realize the sharp limitations that often runs into in campaigns (Trump's 2016 performance notwithstanding.)
> I mean we all know the DNC will choose whomever they want because of their superdelegates.
Superdelegates have no first-ballot voting rights[0], as a result of reforms pushed successfully by the Sanders faction after the 2016 election.
> but don't act like democrats aren't starting to view him as their best option
Sanders is the one with a wide and widening lead, so, no, your description isn't accurate (and despite claims that this is just because there are more centrist candidates, in the few primary head to head polls he clears an absolute majority head-to-head against each of the other major candidates.) Sanders is who the Democrats are increasingly seeing as their best choice.
[0] well, unless the outcome is certain because of a pledged-delegatr majority, in which case they can vote though it won't change the outcome.
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Larry Ellison doesn't play golf. He does own golf courses though. He is a fine athlete but golf is not one of his sports.
>He is a fine athlete but golf is not one of his sports. Isn't this orthogonal? Golf has absolutely nothing to do with athleticism.
Golf has more than a little to do with athleticism, though, like many, especially individual, sports, it's possible for amateurs to play at (often, an approximation of) it without much athleticism.
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Larry Ellison doesn't play golf. He does own golf courses though. He is a fine athlete but golf is not one of his sports.
>He is a fine athlete but golf is not one of his sports. Isn't this orthogonal? Golf has absolutely nothing to do with athleticism.
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What this case demonstrates is that the fantasy of government-free tech is just that, a fantasy. Governments are going to be increasingly involved in issues that only techies used to care about, and it behooves us to make sure that involvement is as benign as possible.
Realistically it's too late for that. Industries that want to be apolitical need to actually behave apolitically, one look at the circus of blatantly political employee activism at google and other big companies demonstrates that tech can't be trusted to be adult enough to accomplish that goal.
Industries, pretty much without exception, don't want that.
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While the last thing I want is a “War on Guns” because it will end up just like the “War on Drugs”. It will give another excuse for the government to enforce laws much more harshly on poor and minorities. But at the same time, it’s just silly to think that a reason to own guns is in case the government wants to impose martial law. We are talking about the government with the largest military in the world - with tanks…
This assumes they throw a ‘martial law’ knife switch and instantly the armed forces turn into fascist enforcers willing to slaughter their own families rather than protect them. Clearly not realistic.
I don't take any pleasure in saying any of this; I'm not interested in besmirching the values of others that I do not share. But what is happening is crazy. The President of the United States is advocating that anybody who does not blindly support him is the enemy; and that those enemies need to be "dealt with".
This is way beyond "America, love it or leave it".
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> the same government The same branch of the same country, but with changes in who occupies it they can be vastly different. I greatly dislike the "both sides are the same" narrative, but there were some strong elements of consistency regardless of occupant. The current administration is an entirely new beast that reflects the whims of a single individual. We are in uncharted waters now.
There are no uncharted waters. “The other side” makes equally bad decisions when it comes to tech because they believe that the government is the answer to too many of the worlds problems. Even if their intentions are good, they don’t have enough of a grasp on technology to understand the ramifications. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Some of the more forward looking liberals warned against executive…
And to avoid getting too political I'll avoid questioning the loyalties and competence of this individual. I don't care if it was Obama or Bernie or Daffy Duck, this is a dangerous situation and it's compounded by the acceptance/acquiescence of a startlingly large portion of the population.
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Wrong. Tiger in particular was seriously into fitness. Tiger Woods on his old workout routine: “Well, I used to get up in the morning, run four miles,” Woods said. “Then I’d go to the gym, do my lift. Then I’d hit balls for two to three hours. I’d go play, come back, work on my short game. I’d go run another four more miles, and then if anyone wanted to play basketball or tennis, I would go play basketball or tennis.…
I'm into fitness too: I go to the gym, I ride my bike for long distances, etc. My job involves sitting at a desk and writing code; my athleticism has nothing to do with it. It's the same with Tiger Woods.
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#210IMO there's two ways to read this: either A) this is a baldly transparent attempt to "own the libs" and punish a company that the administration sees as a threat or B) they are too incompetent to understand the technical nuances of the case and are essentially morons. Maybe both? This administration can't be thrown out on their collective asses fast enough...
Both. 50 years of people cynically saying "all politicians are crooks". And now we have legitimate sleazeballs running the country and nobody believes it. On the one hand, Google is huge and needs competition. On the other hand: not this way. Antitrust and monopoly laws exist for a reason, but if you look at telephones in the 80's and microsoft & intel in the 90's, better lawyers get you around that. We need trustbus…
They just don't care about hiding shit anymore because nobody understands/does anything significant to revolt.