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U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how the film industry moved to California from New York. Back then it was far enough away not to worry about Edison patent lawsuits. By the time the rail improved and the patents expired, Hollywood (they tried Fremond and Tanforan first) was entrenched. There's really nothing like working in the Valley but not everyone likes it and if there's a solid alternative I suspect that Vancouver and Toronto will conti…

> This is how the film industry moved to California from New York. I would think the great weather for filming and access to many kinds of terrain would is benefit New York can’t offer.

I wonder if the subject matter changes to match the weather. It goes from Film Noir, dark rainy detective scenes to Westerns with expansive outdoor scenes.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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US was playing the last few decades with an easy cheat code of sucking in smart immigrants while the rest of the developed world was twiddling thumbs. Now that the US has shot itself on its foot and others are waking up, the playing field appears to be getting more balanced once again.

The US is still the most prefered destination country: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countri... . It overshadows the next four popular destinations combined.

That is 2017. What happened in the last 4 years has a lagging and lasting impact

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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post #24

Vancouverite here. When major tech companies started setting up satellite offices here, I assumed it'd be a temporary situation, and that we'd be at the mercy of any change in the U.S. immigration process. The longer there's an immigration bottleneck though, the more entrenched these companies become here. There are more senior roles opening up here all the time, and salaries are increasing in this competitive market…

The really important thing would be if more Canadian founders were able to create massive companies successfully. The jobs are certainly welcome but I want to hear about more successful companies owned by Canadians

Of all places there are a few rather successful companies coming out of Saskatoon.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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I'm at somewhat of a cross-roads related to this matter. Note that this mostly applies to immigrants from India or China. I'm from India. This applies irrespective of education level (I did my Bachelors in the US, just FYI) Currently I'm in the US on a student visa (currently during a period of that visa that permits me to work) that expires in a couple years. I cannot renew it. If I want to continue working in the U…

> Guess how much time it takes to get a greed card? Atleast 100 years. I'm not joking. Unless there's a policy change, there's no possibility. So my entire family migrated from India (not H1B though, so no idea what that process is like), and some are still migrating, and this is just ridiculous. Green cards and citizenship are issued quite regularly. I'm not going to say its fast, but it's not literally 100 years (c…

That's what's called chain migration. Just because your "uncle got a greencard" doesn't mean skilled immigrants get a greencard unlike your unskilled uncle. This is the kind of immigration that Trump wants to stop. You should not comment on things that you have no idea about.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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I moved from SF to Canada. Traded a higher salary and basically 0 shot at green card for less money, a PR when I walk in and guaranteed citizenship. Most importantly, you cannot do anything besides your job on an H1B. No start ups, no side projects. You can't even BE in the US without a job and just bum around for a year. Every interaction with the US border folks makes me feel like a criminal. The visa fundamentally…

I feel the same way, but from a different perspective since I have DACA. Fortunately I can hop around different jobs or be unemployed, but every couple of years I get to feel like a criminal, and there's the ever-pervasive paradoxical feeling of not being at home but feeling like I'm home in the US. I've been thinking about moving to Guadalajara so I can at least not worry about my immigration status but I'm super scared that I won't feel like I'm home there after being in the US my entire life, and I can't go back on that decision. I've been thinking a lot about Canada as well as Europe, because I think that'll get easier for me to acclimate to.

This whole thing is just super depressing. I feel like I've worked all my life for a great career in the US and it's for nothing if I have to leave everything behind at some point.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how the film industry moved to California from New York. Back then it was far enough away not to worry about Edison patent lawsuits. By the time the rail improved and the patents expired, Hollywood (they tried Fremond and Tanforan first) was entrenched. There's really nothing like working in the Valley but not everyone likes it and if there's a solid alternative I suspect that Vancouver and Toronto will conti…

> This is how the film industry moved to California from New York. I would think the great weather for filming and access to many kinds of terrain would is benefit New York can’t offer.

I believe weather is why the industry moved south to the then minor city of Los Angeles, but many early films were filmed on stage sets anyway. Plus NYC had financing, actors, culture, etc unlike the boondocks of California

There’s a lot of historical analysis of this.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Let's not pretend that Canadian cities are a utopia for tech workers. Vancouver and Toronto are insanely expensive and salaries just don't compare to those a hundred kilometres to the south. Hopefully it steadily improves but I'm not hopeful with these tech companies having virtually an unlimited supply and no incentive to boost salaries.

Language barrier aside, Montréal seems like a hidden gem.

Unfortunately Québec do not have a working skilled immigration system yet. Québec do not follow rest of Canada's immigration system. The CAQ govt. of Québec has completely messed up the immigration system of Québec. Québec focuses on knowledge of French rather than other merits for their immigration, so they get a huge chunk of unskilled immigrants who speaks only French with no employable skills.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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post #160

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As an anglophone who moved to Montreal last year, I'm kinda mixed on it. In my experience, French is both required for accurately ordering food (unless you're lucky and the person taking your order knows English) and for understanding what the métro audio bulk items say (I wish they would put those messages on Twitter too). People will generally be supportive to you trying to learn French, but in order to get permane…

That’s very odd. My interactions in Montreal with stores and restaurants always begin with a “bonjour-hi” and most places have an English menu. In my hundreds of interactions, I’ve only had to use my rusty French two or three times. The rest of Quebec is another story, though.

In my experience, your level of customer service largely depends on your skin color in Québec.

White French > White Anglo > Rest

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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post #24

Vancouverite here. When major tech companies started setting up satellite offices here, I assumed it'd be a temporary situation, and that we'd be at the mercy of any change in the U.S. immigration process. The longer there's an immigration bottleneck though, the more entrenched these companies become here. There are more senior roles opening up here all the time, and salaries are increasing in this competitive market…

The really important thing would be if more Canadian founders were able to create massive companies successfully. The jobs are certainly welcome but I want to hear about more successful companies owned by Canadians

There have been a few big Canadian success stories - Shopify being the latest.
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