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Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by manigandham »

webbie917 wrote: post #141
donmcronald wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that annoys me is the standard operating procedure in tech is to offer stuff for free until a bunch of people depend on it and then to start charging as much as you possibly can once there's a large enough customer base that a reasonable percentage won't have any choice but to bear the updated costs. Mailgun did a pretty nice job by offering a pay-as-you-go tier, but they still took features from the free p…

It really has become a norm and is very frustrating for customers, while there is simply a better way to do this - kill free plan for NEW customers, but grandfather existing customers. Or at least introduce some break-even (low profit margin) plan/tier to move existing customers to, no need to force them off the platform completely. Yes, spammers are a big issue for all ESPs (my own biz in this space is no exception)…

How are they being forced off? Their plans are low profit already, and if customers are getting value then it's fair to ask for payment, even if it was free until now.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by fooey »

niftylettuce wrote: post #124

ForwardEmail is a good alternative if you're just doing forwarding for now (also has Send Mail As from Gmail). I built it because I was sick of the alternatives and it's 100% open-source. https://forwardemail.net

Thank you!

I've been using it on a few domains and it's been working great for me.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by dugite-code »

edmundsauto wrote: post #109
pmlnr wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gmail? outlook? basically anything with imap access.

This is downvoted, but correct. You can programmatically tap into a Gmail account and send 20-30 emails per day, which adds up to the 500/mo.

Whilst technically correct the issue with gmail is it overwrites the from address with the gmail address.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by pests »

pests wrote: post #184
donmcronald wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ZOHO is the only one I can find that still offers a free tier with a custom domain. Their lite $1/month/user account might be an ok fit for you. It's crazy how the norm has become $5/user/month for something that every web-host on the planet used to charge $.10/user/month for. "But it includes file storage". Yeah, because cable TV tiers is what I always hoped for in tech. /s

Ceck out Mitadu. $5/for unlimited domains and users. Prices rise with outgoing mail needs.

I apparently couldn't type.

Check out Migadu.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by cozuya »

unreal37 wrote: post #168
cozuya wrote: post #119

Welp FML. I run a free/lets encrypt/no ads web adaptation of a board game with email verification for only signups and password resets, no "blasts", no nothing else, and I send out ~150 mailgun emails a day. I mean I guess I can disable it and... if you lose your password, you're fucked? Handling my own SMTP sounds like a nightmare.

Or you can find a way to make money to pay for the services your hobby/business uses.

It is under creative commons.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by [deleted] »

donmcronald wrote: post #134
ttul wrote: post #118

My company (MailChannels) sends email on behalf of more domains than any other transactional email provider (see https://trends.builtwith.com/mx/transactional-email/traffic/... ) because our customer base is hosting companies rather than individual senders. The whole transactional space has matured in the past year with SendGrid's acquisition by Twilio and Mailgun passing through a couple of different private equity…

The thing that annoys me is the standard operating procedure in tech is to offer stuff for free until a bunch of people depend on it and then to start charging as much as you possibly can once there's a large enough customer base that a reasonable percentage won't have any choice but to bear the updated costs. Mailgun did a pretty nice job by offering a pay-as-you-go tier, but they still took features from the free p…

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Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by black1101 »

sam_goody wrote: post #56
black1101 wrote: post #14

Is there any alternative to Mailgun for sending / receive mails for free? Let's say 500mails per month? Thank you.

Mailjet, even though it is owned by Mailgun, has a higher free tier. Sendgrid is owned by Twillio, and has a similar free tier. Ses is pretty cheap, for 500 mails, it is essentially free. Or get a dedicated IP, use mailinabox or other similar one click setups.

I Own our private VPS where I was sending and receiving without trouble in the past but currently I am not able to setup mail server correctly what is reason why I started to use mailgun.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by black1101 »

DoctorOW wrote: post #42
black1101 wrote: post #14

Is there any alternative to Mailgun for sending / receive mails for free? Let's say 500mails per month? Thank you.

Just curious if it is 500/month, why switch?

From the description, it seems, that you have just 500 mails to send. You can not receive emails anymore. Or am I wrong? Thank you.

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by disillusioned »

webbie917 wrote: post #141
donmcronald wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that annoys me is the standard operating procedure in tech is to offer stuff for free until a bunch of people depend on it and then to start charging as much as you possibly can once there's a large enough customer base that a reasonable percentage won't have any choice but to bear the updated costs. Mailgun did a pretty nice job by offering a pay-as-you-go tier, but they still took features from the free p…

It really has become a norm and is very frustrating for customers, while there is simply a better way to do this - kill free plan for NEW customers, but grandfather existing customers. Or at least introduce some break-even (low profit margin) plan/tier to move existing customers to, no need to force them off the platform completely. Yes, spammers are a big issue for all ESPs (my own biz in this space is no exception)…

What value are they getting out of carrying a bunch of freeloading accounts?

Or put another way: what value are they risking by force-deplatforming the freeloading accounts, besides a bit of splashback from frustrated (non-paying) users?

Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month

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Post by [deleted] »

disillusioned wrote: post #209
webbie917 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really has become a norm and is very frustrating for customers, while there is simply a better way to do this - kill free plan for NEW customers, but grandfather existing customers. Or at least introduce some break-even (low profit margin) plan/tier to move existing customers to, no need to force them off the platform completely. Yes, spammers are a big issue for all ESPs (my own biz in this space is no exception)…

What value are they getting out of carrying a bunch of freeloading accounts? Or put another way: what value are they risking by force-deplatforming the freeloading accounts, besides a bit of splashback from frustrated (non-paying) users?

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