New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

Post by kart23 » Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 11:58 PM UTC

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #20

thisistheend123 wrote: post #7

President Xi has warned that the virus is spreading. His intervention seems to be unprecedented. Is it worse than what it seems to be? They have quarantined whole cities and are building a hospital at war scale especially for this. Maybe the Chinese know something that the world doesn't know yet.

Anecdotal (not official) reports suggest as many as 100,000 infections in Wuhan area. There are claims the virus may be spread through eyes as well as inhalation. Additional unsubstantiated claims suggest low to no fever during incubation period, making detection difficult. The most sensationalist claim making the rounds is that a known Wuhan area PLA biolab may have failed to contain this pathogen. In the end none o…

Post by mrb » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 12:01 AM UTC

ggm wrote: post #189

mrb wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to quote a source for "twice as fatal as the flu"? Everything indicates it's way worse. 6 of the first 41 identified patients have died. That's a mortality rate of 15%. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... Caveat: 41 is a very small sample, and the first patients are likely to have been the most severe cases (pre-existing conditions, weak immune systems, etc). And when you take publicl…

Need better data to get better mortality rate. Stop hyperbole, let the epidemiologists call it.

Post by Fomite » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 12:08 AM UTC

refurb wrote: post #128

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal (not official) reports suggest as many as 100,000 infections in Wuhan area. There are claims the virus may be spread through eyes as well as inhalation. Additional unsubstantiated claims suggest low to no fever during incubation period, making detection difficult. The most sensationalist claim making the rounds is that a known Wuhan area PLA biolab may have failed to contain this pathogen. In the end none o…

Is transmission through eyes that odd? The common cold already is. You rub your eyes, the virus enters your tears, which drain to your nose.

Post by vkou » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 12:11 AM UTC

tzs wrote: post #173

Viruses are scary. My company switched to work at home maybe 18 months ago, so I no longer am exposed to the viruses of my coworkers. At the grocery stores at which I buy most of my food I use the self checkout, so no interacting with humans there. At McDonalds I order and pay at the kiosks, so no human interaction there except when they hand me the bag with my food. At Burger King and Wendy's I do order at the count…

Post by tempsy » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 12:33 AM UTC

_byed wrote: post #191

Datsundere wrote: post #158

Need I say More? https://twitter.com/chenqiushi404/status/1219885244670607361

> Need I say More? Yes, actually. Can you demonstrate how this actually resulted in the pandemic rather than subtly shaming a cultural practice you don't agree with? (I don't agree with it either, but "need I say more" pointing to the specific practice is not the same thing as "here's a resource which links bat game consumption to outbreaks." The tone is ever so slightly edging in the wrong direction.)