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Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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post #113

I'm not surprised to hear this considering what an out-of-gate unquestionable home run Apple News has been.I mean, it's been such monster success that Apple knows even its dumpster fire of a UX and god awful search functionality aren't enough to keep away the literal dozens of users it has. With no where else to turn for news the Apple faithful will just have to accept that Apple's decision to not support RSS really…

85 million monthly active users according to Apple.

Do you know what qualifies as ‘active’?

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#202

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Apple's hijacking of links, addresses, etc, is possibly their top abuse of power. The other possible top abuse is the way they block you in your group messages if you switch from iPhone to Android.

I'm not even sure their engineers understand how annoying it is. They've implemented links in such a horrible way, and it's gotten worse with time (for example, there is a feature where if you open a link and have the right associated app installed, it will open the link in the app. There used to be a way to force the link to open in Safari in case you didn't want to open the app; it'd show up in the top right. The f…

this sounds like a privacy issue and should be filed as a bug. if I can't open a link in a private tab in Safari (or ideally the browser of my choice) then I can not protect my privacy. The launched app will get to record my activity or via the non private browser tab the site will track me.

file a bug / feedback that this is not in line with Apple's privacy first stance

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#203
post #11

Flipboard is better than any news app I’ve used

I've never used it. Why do you like Flipboard? Why do you dislike other news apps? How much does it cost? If it's free, how do they monetise?

It’s free. You set up your likes and can mute news sources the. You can add RSS feeds you want to read as well.

It lets you have the most control over your news feed than anyone else.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Apple replicated the functionality so they could crack down on third parties abusing enterprise device management.

Apple actually recanted and removed the special rule they had added to make those apps violate the TOS. Their review process didn't enforce that rule for years until after Apple started competing, then the apps were suddenly "abusive" but it was actually platform abuse all along. > The company estimated that Apple’s move cost it around $3 million, a spokeswoman told the Times. https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/04/with-a…

What did Apple recant?

The rules weren't special. The new exception allowing parental control apps to use MDM is.

The intended use of MDM was always clear. Apple admitted abuse wasn't on their radar until 2017. Cracking down right away would have left users without a replacement.

Do you have any examples that are still in effect?

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#205

Apple News was already flakey and unreliable in the sources (websites) it would allow to be added. With its highly limited geographical availability (years after launching) and its problematic focus on News+, I switched back to a plain RSS Reader to follow specific sites. Apple News seems like a niche product with hardly any technical effort put into it. In comparison, Google News, with its ads, generally looks like…

Which RSS reader do you use?

https://feedly.com/ is the best web-based reader today. Mobile app also works great.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#206
post #113

I'm not surprised to hear this considering what an out-of-gate unquestionable home run Apple News has been.I mean, it's been such monster success that Apple knows even its dumpster fire of a UX and god awful search functionality aren't enough to keep away the literal dozens of users it has. With no where else to turn for news the Apple faithful will just have to accept that Apple's decision to not support RSS really…

85 million monthly active users according to Apple.

I wonder if they’re defining “active users” as not only people who open the Apple News app, but also people who happen to see Apple News headlines in that Today View screen (the screen left of the home screen). I’m still using an SE so can’t be sure of this, but I’d bet all new iPhones still default to Apple News piping into that view: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/view-news-stories-in-...

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's hijacking of links, addresses, etc, is possibly their top abuse of power. The other possible top abuse is the way they block you in your group messages if you switch from iPhone to Android.

I'm not even sure their engineers understand how annoying it is. They've implemented links in such a horrible way, and it's gotten worse with time (for example, there is a feature where if you open a link and have the right associated app installed, it will open the link in the app. There used to be a way to force the link to open in Safari in case you didn't want to open the app; it'd show up in the top right. The f…

And when the link is opened in an app instead of Safari, it doesn't gain the visited styling. Which is annoying.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#208

Apple News was already flakey and unreliable in the sources (websites) it would allow to be added. With its highly limited geographical availability (years after launching) and its problematic focus on News+, I switched back to a plain RSS Reader to follow specific sites. Apple News seems like a niche product with hardly any technical effort put into it. In comparison, Google News, with its ads, generally looks like…

Which RSS reader do you use?

Since this seems to be the thread where everyone mentions the RSS feed reader they use/write, I'll share Brook. It's a very minimal feed reader that gives you what you need and gets out of the way.

You can use it in Firefox right now, and if anyone is interested, I'll port it to Chrome. Honestly I wrote it because my old favorite feed reader Sage wasn't supported after Firefox switched to the web extensions standards.

Give it a peek if you either want to see how it works, or you just want a simple way to browse your favorite sites in your browser.

Source: https://github.com/adamsanderson/brook

Plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/brook-feed-re...

(Okay, now let's get back to the regularly scheduled outrage around the decline of RSS and maybe mention how Google doesn't support its products anymore ;) )

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#209
post #88

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Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. I don't have high hopes for News, given how much it keeps pushing features that are either user-unfriendly (giant ads in the middle of articles) or designed solely to push you to News+ I used to be a regular (many times a day) user and their changes have led me to stop using it entirely.

> Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. Both fall well short of OSM for topics other than finding local businesses. OSM gives me incredible detail, even telling me where water fountains and benches are in the local park. Meanwhile Google Maps doesn't even recognize the restricted access road running through the park, let alone any of the walking trails, let alone any water fountains, benches, etc. If you…

If you can't drive a car on it or through it or to it, Google thinks it may as well not exist.

Given what Google uses to build its maps, that's not surprising:

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/259216/google-street-view.jpg

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

#210
post #7

The weirdest thing about this is that Apple News still hijacks links to Atom/RSS feeds - so if you click on one of those links in Mobile Safari you'll be bounced to the News app, which will then display an error. Here's a video I recorded of this behaviour: https://twitter.com/simonw/status/1210622908143415297 I think I'd rather they displayed a dump of ugly XML in the browser, just so I could copy and paste the URL…

Y'know, that makes me wonder... what if the "removal" of RSS support is just a bug?
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