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Rooms can be as bright as the outdoors

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Re: Rooms can be as bright as the outdoors

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Post by webgoat »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #178

> For instance, cancer progresses much faster in summer than in winter [edit: cancer progresses much faster in constant light: winter vs. summer is complicated] I don't know you, you make a very successful app that people really swear by. I have no qualms about people using f.lux, if you want to take your $4,600 laptop and $1,400 phone, on which people spent decades perfecting color reproduction, and you're paying $1…

Thank you for your comment, you have just saved me from taking in fake news. Any tone you take is fine when you're preventing the spread of misinformation, so keep being you.

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Post by jsilence »

It is possible to recycle old LCD monitors into articficial windows that have a very real feel to them. The diffraction lenses for the backlight direct the light in a way that makes it appear sun like. Of course this is only about the direction and not about the spectrum, but it might be possible to find LED strips with a high CRI. Any feedback would be appreciated.

DIY directions on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrqH2oOTK4

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Post by eggie »

jamilbk wrote: post #186

The main limitation office workers face when working in sunlit environments is the reflective glare on most, if not all, computer displays. I conjecture if/when e-ink displays match conventional LCDs in response time and resolution there will be a movement towards “outdoor offices”. Imagine being able to work productively in a garden, atrium, sun room, or any other natural outdoor environment. Many of the pitfalls of…

> I conjecture if/when e-ink displays match conventional LCDs in response time and resolution there will be a movement towards “outdoor offices”.

I think you're right. Working outdoors with a laptop is already better than indoors. It'd be easier with e-ink.

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Post by OnlineGladiator »

errantspark wrote: post #190
doctorpangloss wrote: post #178

> For instance, cancer progresses much faster in summer than in winter [edit: cancer progresses much faster in constant light: winter vs. summer is complicated] I don't know you, you make a very successful app that people really swear by. I have no qualms about people using f.lux, if you want to take your $4,600 laptop and $1,400 phone, on which people spent decades perfecting color reproduction, and you're paying $1…

I'm just commenting to save what might be the saltiest comment I've ever seen on HN. I bet you're very fun at parties.

I certainly wouldn't call GP's comment friendly, but I found it informative. Especially when you're trying to discuss things scientifically, I care much more about truth than kindness (not that you shouldn't try to be nice). I think replies criticizing flaws in comments are some of the most underappreciated tidbits of HN, because they are drilling into the details which are what really matters.

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Post by rolandog »

didibus wrote: post #192
doctorpangloss wrote: post #178

> For instance, cancer progresses much faster in summer than in winter [edit: cancer progresses much faster in constant light: winter vs. summer is complicated] I don't know you, you make a very successful app that people really swear by. I have no qualms about people using f.lux, if you want to take your $4,600 laptop and $1,400 phone, on which people spent decades perfecting color reproduction, and you're paying $1…

Maybe there hasn't been any clinical trial, but this article suggests there were quite a few studies on it: https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/blue-light-ha... Not the cancer thing, but the blue light effects. Well actually it talks a little about cancer as well :p

It does mention that it is very preliminary:

Some studies suggest a link between exposure to light at night, such as working the night shift, to some types of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and obesity. That's not proof that nighttime light exposure causes these conditions; nor is it clear why it could be bad for us. But we do know that exposure to light suppresses the secretion of melatonin, a hormone that influences circadian rhythms, and there's some experimental evidence (it's very preliminary) that lower melatonin levels might explain the association with cancer.

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Post by drited »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #178

> For instance, cancer progresses much faster in summer than in winter [edit: cancer progresses much faster in constant light: winter vs. summer is complicated] I don't know you, you make a very successful app that people really swear by. I have no qualms about people using f.lux, if you want to take your $4,600 laptop and $1,400 phone, on which people spent decades perfecting color reproduction, and you're paying $1…

In response to this part of your comment, f. Lux allows you to specify programs like Netflix, VLC, Photoshop where it will automatically turn off 'you're paying $13/mo for Netflix to watch shows with multi-million dollar budgets and dedicated colorists, and you start watching Orange is the New Black and you make it yellow,'

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Post by buzzkillington »

jamilbk wrote: post #186

The main limitation office workers face when working in sunlit environments is the reflective glare on most, if not all, computer displays. I conjecture if/when e-ink displays match conventional LCDs in response time and resolution there will be a movement towards “outdoor offices”. Imagine being able to work productively in a garden, atrium, sun room, or any other natural outdoor environment. Many of the pitfalls of…

> The Bay Area and its relatively fantastic weather would be fully realized as a perk to tech workers.

I built a Linux box with an rpi3 I had lying around and a boox max3 I got. So far working out doors:

+ Insects: you have no idea how many seem to come out of no where just to annoy you.

+ Sun: you need sun screen even on overcast days. I look like an overripe tomato.

+ Rain: when you least expect it one tiny cloud will go past and drop enough rain to soak you and any exposed electronics.

+ Children: loud and obnoxious, seem to be everywhere at any time.

+ Homeless: turns out they really like parks and assume you're one of them if you're there for more than 30 minutes.

There's probably more but those are the things I had to deal with yesterday. Today I just sat on my balcony instead. Sunlight is nice, but there's a reason why people have been building shelters for millennia.

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Post by mcv »

I don't really need this, but if I did, the fan would probably be a deal-breaker for me. Instead, I'd spread this out of multiple weaker light sources. That would spread the light out more, spread the heat of course, and probably also make it easier to tune it to exactly the light level you want.

I do understand the desire to have daylight-level lighting in your house. It's a shame it takes so much power.

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Post by dijit »

SirHound wrote: post #124
taneq wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I fit the pattern of "Non-24 Sleep-Wake Disorder", with my sleep and waking times drifting progressively later at semi-regular intervals. This is a disorder now? I thought that's just how humans worked. It's how I work, anyway - if nothing else (like work, or children waking up at 5:30am) forces me to get up at a set time, I'll slowly cycle through until I'm going to bed at sun-up and waking up at 3pm.

No this isn’t typical. Are you particulary good at coping with jetlag?

I identify with the parent, and I've always been fine with "jet lag" to the point where I often don't even notice it or it only lasts until I go to bed the first night.

(IE; Sweden->Los Angeles, the inverse is harder but not as hard as most people seem to have it, it knocks some colleagues out for an entire week)

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