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Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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I just wish mobile Firefox had more flexibility.

I never stopped using desktop but mobile has been languishing on my tablet until the last iOS update totally broke safari (click and hold loading the anchor, and some dns glitch that means hacker news and two other sites are the only thing that works for hours at a time)

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

#203
Either Brave or plain Chromium is the obvious choice. Privacy is not a technical challenge--it's just a switch that's trivial to turn off. I can either:

- Install Chromium from a community-maintained package manager on any platform: apt (even on Raspbian), choco, brew, AUR, ports

- Install a Chromium fork like Brave

- Download a nightly Chromium build from https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-sn... (and optionally copy Google API keys from a community package like Ubuntu's)

- Compile it from source (and optionally copy Google API keys from a community package like Ubuntu's). You are free to tinker and harden as much as you want, but it will cost you several days worth of electricity and your time.

  #define google.com 127.0.0.1
But even with compiling Chromium, you'd still save more electricity than having Mozilla Firefox open all day. You won't deal with losing all your work because of a segfault somewhere in a behemoth from the 90s that ships all its new features as JavaScript (on SpiderMonkey!) addons.

This push for Firefox as a privacy browser is a nothingburger. Privacy can be switched on overnight; good software development takes years.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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I have always been a heavy user of Firefox, even in the pre-Quantum days. My main reason was that Chrome would sync my bookmarks out of order and I am a heavy bookmarks sync user. I gave Chrome multiple tries for bookmark syncing and yet they would sync them out of order (can't believe I am the only heavy bookmark user on Chrome who cares) so I just stuck with FF. Then the privacy concerns happened and I stopped tryi…

Another heavy bookmarks user / hoarder here. I have around 30k bookmarks, so much bookmarks that Firefox freezes for a few seconds when I click on bookmarks menu bar item, because it tries to load them all within that drop down menu. I keep bookmarks sidebar permanently open without any slowdowns.

I've been using Firefox from its very beginnings so I can tell you I've tried switching to Chrome and Safari a few times over the years. Every time I tried to import bookmarks to other browsers they would simply crap out, while Firefox handled them without breaking a sweat.

Of course I continue to use FF for many other reasons but, at least at first, good and fast bookmarks management kept me using Firefox.

Lastly, if anyone knows a way to prevent Firefox to show all bookmarks in drop-down menu, let me know :)

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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People, who choose Chrome (not even Chromium) over Firefox for a fraction of a second faster load speed of some pages (, which is often even "fake" as Google artificially slows down some pages for Firefox users or engineers them in Chrome optimization specific ways,) disregarding any privacy concerns, are simply not the target group of Firefox developers, because they do not care about privacy enhancing features. To…

> ...for a fraction of a second faster load speed of some pages (, which is often even "fake" as Google artificially slows down some pages for Firefox users or engineers them in Chrome optimization specific ways,) disregarding any privacy concerns... That is false and defamatory. Chromium is noticeably faster than Firefox on a large swath of popular websites and web applications, the majority of which Google does not…

I heard that google has been shipping HTTP2 and/or HTTP3 functionality which would largely work only between the chrome client and servers which support those. That might also result in those pages appearing to load faster between different browsers.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

#206

As I have already said in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21026626 : Firefox really should take care of it's native interface, it feels like a cross-platform app, and while it does have some worthy features to consider, for me it's too non-mac (and in that aspect, it really doesn't look like an Window/Linux app either) for someone using Safari to migrate.

If they put some emphasis on embeddability, some of us might build these alternative interfaces for them.

Well, they are to an extent with their work on the new Firefox Preview for Android, which is using underlying browser tech as a library instead of bundled together into a monolithic app, which improves code reuse for Focus and Firefox for Android. I don't know if this will translate at all for making separate UX on different platforms, but the optimist in me thinks it will.

That being said, I like the Firefox UI on Linux, Windows, and Android, so I guess I don't understand the desire for making it "more native". My excitement for the new Firefox for Android is all about the performance improvements, not the UI design.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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post #203

Either Brave or plain Chromium is the obvious choice. Privacy is not a technical challenge--it's just a switch that's trivial to turn off. I can either: - Install Chromium from a community-maintained package manager on any platform: apt (even on Raspbian), choco, brew, AUR, ports - Install a Chromium fork like Brave - Download a nightly Chromium build from https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-sn.…

Suggesting a chrome based browser as a way to save energy is truly ironic.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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It's true. I have kept giving Firefox another chance over time but haven't been convinced. Recently, I tried Firefox again on Windows. And the experience is amazing indeed - faster, smoother, and with trackers blocking, very pleasant. And with strict protection, that's sort-of a builtin ad blocker. Something still feels off on MacOS even though the last version has been a massive improvement for MBP Retina.

I gave desktop Firefox multiple chances over the course of 15 years, until that day in May when every extension stopped working.[1] That said, the mobile version seems really robust. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/a-glitch-is-breaking-all-f...

What do you use instead? IMO, even with the switch to Web Extensions, Firefox still has a better selection of extensions.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

#209

T-mobile's login page last month dropped Firefox support -- returned a cryptic complaint about "agent ID". There is actually something we can do to make T-mo reconsider: Call up one of their agents and play the naive user reporting the problem. Then voice a complaint when told that "the site supports Chrome and Safari". These calls get logged as an expense, presumably charged to the earlier policy decision to drop FF…

It works fine for me. Firefox for Android (Fennec) with uBlock Origin. What exactly is broken?

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Containers still have quite a bad UX though. It’s OK to open a tab in the desired container and load Facebook, but whenever you leave Facebook via a link, it will stay in the same container. If you eventually end up on a website you want to be logged in to, you’ll have to manually switch to the right container again. It seems like containers are a powerful concept with multiple different uses, but the UX for each of…

Yet these days facebook will be using IP tracking anyway, it won’t matter whether you’re logged in or not, in the other containers, if you’re just logged in once, they will know what sites you’re visiting, your browser fingerprint easily identify as you, even if you’re not logged into Facebook in those containers.

My understanding is the Facebook container add-on blocks phoning home by Facebook like and share buttons. You are right that ad networks can still share data (use uBlock Origin) or websites can share this in the back end (nothing we can do about I guess) but the Facebook container is not nothing.
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