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Re: Sanders wants to replace credit reporting companies with public credit registry

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Post by asabjorn » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 5:24 PM UTC

codyb wrote: post #197

asabjorn wrote: post #184

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To make it harder a significant number of people need to have no ID. Banking require and id [1] and 93.5% of the population is banked. Most of the remainder probably has an ID for Government services that need them such as applying for food stamps, medicare, medicaid, having a job, unemployment support and social security. In Norway, my home country, it has never been an issue in our 200 years as an independent count…

Generally that 6.5% of unbanked persons tend not to vote for less healthcare and more tax breaks for the rich. Instituting the voter ID law makes it harder for 6.5% of people that rarely vote for Republicans to vote to prevent 0.000X% of votes cast fraudulently each election. Do you get it now?

As I stated the unbanked are likely to be very old or poor so that use government services that require an ID. For instance, they rely on food stamps or Medicaid or social security. A large part of this 6.5% and the cohort you talk about therefor has an ID.

The reason why I think so is that people that are not poor can not lead their lives without a bank account due to the essentials for a non poor life requiring a bank account.

Re: Sanders wants to replace credit reporting companies with public credit registry

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Post by CompanionCuuube » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:53 PM UTC

cm2012 wrote: post #141

frittig wrote: post #135

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I'm pretty sure that you need an ID in order to buy a gun.

Not at gun shows or other common purchasing avenues.

If the seller is in the business of dealing with firearms, they do as a matter of federal law.

Re: Sanders wants to replace credit reporting companies with public credit registry

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Post by CompanionCuuube » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:54 PM UTC

youeseh wrote: post #146

frittig wrote: post #135

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I'm pretty sure that you need an ID in order to buy a gun.

No one said that you have the right to buy one. You have the right to OWN a gun. You have the right to vote.

That doesn't make sense. Does that mean it's okay if we just throw away the votes of people who don't have ids? After all, they have a right to vote but not to have that vote count.

Re: Sanders wants to replace credit reporting companies with public credit registry

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Post by codyb » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 1:22 AM UTC

asabjorn wrote: post #201

codyb wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally that 6.5% of unbanked persons tend not to vote for less healthcare and more tax breaks for the rich. Instituting the voter ID law makes it harder for 6.5% of people that rarely vote for Republicans to vote to prevent 0.000X% of votes cast fraudulently each election. Do you get it now?

As I stated the unbanked are likely to be very old or poor so that use government services that require an ID. For instance, they rely on food stamps or Medicaid or social security. A large part of this 6.5% and the cohort you talk about therefor has an ID. The reason why I think so is that people that are not poor can not lead their lives without a bank account due to the essentials for a non poor life requiring a b…

This is my last comment. The Republicans would much prefer to prevent or make it harder to vote for 2%, 1%, whatever.

They don’t care about voter fraud. At all.

They care about adding enough shit together that they can win elections.

That is all they care about.

It is not in good faith. It is not about protecting the sanctity of elections.

It is about the opposite. They’ve never been able to show that voter fraud has ever affected an election.

They’re in it because even shaving a percentage of people from voting Democrat is worth it for them.

That is it. That’s the only reason.

Goodbye.

Re: Sanders wants to replace credit reporting companies with public credit registry

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Post by niij » Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 4:32 AM UTC

omnimus wrote: post #164

niij wrote: post #132

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> Other countries were able to figure it out, so can we I mean the solution to #1 is obvious: forced registration. I think you'll have a hard time getting people on board with passing a law for that. It just seems like an hour at the DMV would solve all 3 problems at once: provide address, current photo, and reduce fraud/abuse. Seems like a good system to me. Can you give me an example of what other country(-ies) sys…

Sorry could you clarify... why would you need Voting Card? I mean normal state ID must be enough no? Like everyone has to have one so they can prove their age and citizenship and where they live no?

IDs are not mandatory at either the State or Federal level in the USA.

The most common type of identification is a State driver's license, but there are also alternative non-driver license ID cards available. None of these IDs are mandatory, but are nearly required to live in modern society (open a bank account, drive a car, vote, etc).