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Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by typeformer »

jonathankoren wrote: post #99
starpilot wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even a hypersonic aircraft wouldn't be capable of the maneuvers witnessed. It was also shaped like a tic tac, which doesn't align with any known hypersonic airframe shaping technique (like a wedge or waverider).

This is of course assuming that the purported maneuvers actually happened, and I’m not the least convinced that they are. Unfortunately I can’t find the video right now, but there was a video I watched where the guy broke down the GoFast video using the angles and speed displayed screen, and made a very convincing argument that it’s not actually moving fast, but appears to be going fast do to parallax. Instead it’s b…

Yeah that guy, he doesn't know jack squat.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

erik_landerholm wrote: post #169
bobdole12345 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, more like the laser pointer dot can move faster than any cat could catch. That doesn't mean the laser pointer wielder is moving that fast.

Huh? You think it’s some kind of projection? How do you explain the great, huge underwater vessel the 4 pilots saw? It was seen visually. The FLIR and radar reports were from different people on two separate training exercises and from the Princeton. The pilots claiming to have seen the large underwater craft and the tic-tac saw it visually only. The radar on their planes could not pick it up. They watched it for 5 m…

That literally screams "sensor bug". Did no one there ever see how light behaves once you start playing with mirrors? I also wonder how much software is processing is done on raw data in real-time, because some of what I read could be explained by algorithms hitting a corner case.

I mean, what's more likely? A magic propulsion system ignoring known physics, or some component in the complex sensory system of the plane falling into oscillation?

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Post by typeformer »

dymk wrote: post #146
ALittleLight wrote: post #140

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I would be a bit upset that they were hoarding technology the public sector could use.

Be prepared for a lot of upset then

Yeah the whole world is going to be very upset someday about the coverup, hence the continued cover up.

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Post by duxup »

godelski wrote: post #126

Reading the linked Vice article >"Based on pilot accounts, encounters with these UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena) often involved complex flight patterns and advanced maneuvering, which demand extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics, and thermodynamics.” - Walker > Republican representative Mark Walker of North Carolina This is laughably stupid. QM and nuclear science? Can we call…

It seems like there is a historical pattern where people observe something they can't explain and then note that "it must mean X" maybe that is advances in something, or it's just magic, or aliens or whatever.... rather than "We just don't know enough to explain what we think we observed".

And often later we find explanations that fit within the confines of things we understand just fine.

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Post by nullc »

rblion wrote: post #2

I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

> until I saw some flying orbs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning perhaps?

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Post by typeformer »

one2know wrote: post #31

The videos are of real aircraft recorded through a FLIR pod. When zoomed out far enough the aircraft simply look like fuzzy ovals as demonstrated in this video https://youtu.be/jWjpnCKcj8M?t=136 For some reason people in the military and government are trolling the public, perhaps as part of a campaign to discredit news agencies.

Explain why Raytheon's Director of Engineering also believes that they captured a ET craft, they've even used it in their marketing!

https://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/uap_atflir

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Post by Pyxl101 »

geomark wrote: post #189

I watched Joe Rogan interview Bob Lazar [1] which seemed mind blowing if everything he said was true. But then I went and researched it and seems more likely he came up with some fantastic stories to keep himself out of prison after he got caught taking a bunch of friends up to the mountains to watch some classified experiements of a particle beam device. It's not my field of study, but some opinions I read were that…

I'm pretty skeptical of Lazar. See this article for an investigative counterpoint of many of his claims:

https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...

> A last item for your consideration to assess Lazar’s veracity is his academic background. He claims Masters degrees from BOTH Caltech and MIT in subjects they don’t offer and during time periods he couldn’t have physically been at either campus. In response to questions at the “Ultimate UFO Seminar” in Rachael, NV in May of 1993, Lazar was so kind as to offer up the names of two of his instructors at Caltech and MIT, a “Dr. Duxler” as well as “Hohsfield”. He even spelled them. Stan Friedman told me he went searching for Duxler and no such person ever taught at Caltech or MIT. However he did find a William Duxler who taught Math and Physics at the previously mentioned Pierce College and confirmed to Friedman that Lazar had taken at least one of his courses in the 1970s.

> As for finding Hohsfield, Friedman rolled snake eyes, beyond confirming no one by that name ever taught at Caltech or MIT. However did you know that in this amazing 21st Century you can buy reprints of all sorts of old high school yearbooks? Like, for example, the 1976 yearbook for W. Tresper Clarke High School? And if one were to do so, one would find that there was a Technical and Vocational teacher there by the name of Frederick Hohsfield. Looks like he was teaching electronics. Interesting, no?

Falsely claiming academic degrees is all by itself extremely damaging to his credibility. According to Wikipedia:

> Lazar claims that his academic records were erased in an effort by authorities to discredit him

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar#Education_and_qualif...

Even if his academic records were erased, it should be easy to identify professors who had him in their class, or classmates who attended with him. If Lazar was willing to prove his claims, he could provide the name of a classmate or professor who did verifiably attend either institution, and who is willing to name Lazar as a student. Applying Occam's Razor to the situation is not favorable to Lazar.

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Post by katmannthree »

nomel wrote: post #112
Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #98

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Yeah, and I don't think they were aliens. I just don't know what they were. We were driving through very rural Illinois at about 10 pm. I was just staring out of the window up at the sky. Suddenly, I noticed a rather bright orb (not perfectly circular or anything, I just don't know how else to describe it) hovering in the air. I would guess maybe a quarter mile laterally, and only a couple hundred of feet up. I didn'…

It would be interesting to set up a crowd sourced, and maybe crowd hosted, reporting system for sightings like this. It could help track larger movements, (puts on tinfoil) with their accuracy verified by how quickly the service is taken down/flooded/infiltrated.

I think the mutual ufo network [0] fits the bill perfectly on that.

[0] https://www.mufon.com/track-ufos.html

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