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Post by Vinnl »

sfink wrote: post #196
Vinnl wrote: post #194

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Hmm OK, there might be some misunderstanding there because I'm not a native speaker, but in my mind it's a small step below "obliterated". If it also refers to just taking a small bite out of its market share, then my apologies for the misunderstanding.

No, you were right in the first place, RcouF1uZ4gsC was being pedantic. Originally, decimated came from when the Roman army would conquer another group, and would assert dominance (and instill fear) by killing off 1 in every 10 soldiers. So it literally meant removing a tenth. English has mutated the meaning to mean "nearly wipe out", which is very different from the original meaning. But that's common in language. C…

Interesting, thanks for teaching me something today :)

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Post by littlestymaar »

izacus wrote: post #197
littlestymaar wrote: post #97

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> Chrome also has a persistent advantage in being able to advertise Chrome on google search results. And also on gmail, googlemaps and YouTube… They even paid for ads in the subway here in Paris! They also bundled it with software like Adobe Flash, which made it available on virtually every computer circa 2010… And they ship it as their default browser on Android…

> And they ship it as their default browser on Android… It's not the default browser on most Android phones sold. Samsung Internet is.

Samsung sells a lot of phones but far from the majority of them, they have around 25% of the android market, which means 75% has Chrome installed by default.

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

gregknicholson wrote: post #181
JeremyNT wrote: post #156

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It's worth noting that Firefox Focus is just another chromium-based browser. If things keep moving in the direction they currently are, this may be the sad fate of Firefox proper :(

Happily, this is no longer true! https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/09/focus-with-geckoview/

The latest Firefox Klar on F-droid is still using Blink, according to https://whatsmyua.info/.

That being said, the F-droid version is probably out of date.

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Post by macspoofing »

mathnmusic wrote: post #118
EastSmith wrote: post #116

Mozilla needs to fork Chromium, build a super good privacy shield on top of it and thats it.

What would be the difference over Brave then?

It wouldn't be created and run by Brendan Eich who was run out of Mozilla for the crime of (privately) voting the wrong way on a ballot initiative. That was and continues to be a bad look for Mozilla.

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Post by getlawgdon »

I've used both products for as long as they've existed. Google's search quality has become absolutely terrible and only reflects their ad strategy. DDG has become superior in many important ways.

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Post by pcwalton »

kirb wrote: post #200
pcwalton wrote: post #173

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Some fixes for this have landed in Nightly. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429522

I’m pretty sad that it took a long time to solve this. I know there was a lot of work put into bringing Firefox back up to snuff, but this single issue seems to have caused a lot of trouble. This Bugzilla link is light grey for me, so I’ve visited it before, most likely a year or two ago. Since then I’ve been running Firefox with the gfx.compositor.glcontext.opaque flag set to false, which doesn’t even cause any issu…

It only really affects Retina Macs, which are a small fraction of the total userbase [1]. I understand that it's frustrating, but it would have been doing a disservice to the vast majority of Windows users to block a release on Mac power improvements. Especially since graphics power management on macOS isn't a new issue by any means; Quantum didn't introduce it.

[1]: https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware

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Post by izacus »

littlestymaar wrote: post #202
izacus wrote: post #197

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> And they ship it as their default browser on Android… It's not the default browser on most Android phones sold. Samsung Internet is.

Samsung sells a lot of phones but far from the majority of them, they have around 25% of the android market, which means 75% has Chrome installed by default.

Um, I think you misread something - they have ~25% of global smartphone market. They're closer to 50% of Android market.

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Post by bugmen0t »

0xdeadb00f wrote: post #203
gregknicholson wrote: post #181

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Happily, this is no longer true! https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/09/focus-with-geckoview/

The latest Firefox Klar on F-droid is still using Blink, according to https://whatsmyua.info/ . That being said, the F-droid version is probably out of date.

That's an issue with the f-droid build config. Maybe worth filing a bug with them and asking to change it?

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Post by aphextim »

yumraj wrote: post #132
aphextim wrote: post #121

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I've been enjoying using startpage. https://www.startpage.com

How does it compare to DDG? In other words, I went from Google to DDG because of privacy. Why should I move from DDG to say StartPage, does it provide any additional benefits? To clarify, I'm totally open to other search engines, just an trying to understand more.

It is in a sense a google proxy. Better results IMO than DDG, more similar to Google without sending your IP/info to google.

I don't understand the stuff too much at a really high level to know which is more private, DDG vs Startpage.

>On 29 March 2016, Ixquick.com was officially "merged" with the same company's Startpage search engine[3] (a search engine with the privacy features of Ixquick, but using only Google search results[4]). Users entering ixquick.com are now automatically re-routed to startpage.com. Ixquick had long declared on its sites, that it operated in compliance with European Union privacy standards, and it retained its original European search engine, Ixquick.eu,[8] until about April 2018, when it was also redirected to startpage.com.

>Prior to the release of Tor Browser version 4.5, Startpage.com was its default search engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Startpage.com

Re: Thank you, Chris

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

aphextim wrote: post #121
yumraj wrote: post #62

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> Say all you want about DDG and alternatives I've been using DDG, finally, for a little less than 1 year. For most part my DDG searches have been sufficient, in the sense that I generally find what I'm looking for and my need is met. On few occasions where my need is not met, I do a !g and sometimes Google gives me what I want, but not in all the cases. I have to refine my search query in many, if not most, of those…

I've been enjoying using startpage. https://www.startpage.com

The one thing that drives me nuts about startpage is that by default, links open in a new tab.

You can change this in Settings, but it's stored in a cookie which my devices clear from time to time. (Not that I'd rather they store it a different way, the situation is just unfortunate.)

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