Could everyone chill with this already? We get it, you’re super clever and super privacy conscious. Now let people enjoy the products they like.
It’s almost like saying to a rape victim, “Yada-yada, we get it. Couldn’t you just relax and enjoy it?”
If you must run Windows 10
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Re: If you must run Windows 10
#202This post recommends LTSC because it has been pre-de-crappified (e.e., no Candy Crush pre-installed). However in January 2020 Microsoft will not support Office 365 (ProPlus?) on LTSC. This is because the 'official' LTSC use case is for things like medical devices, and not "regular" desktops. It's just that many IT sites got tired of the Windows 10 what-a-mole with non-helpful features, phone home stuff, etc, that the…
I'm facing this decision right now. To LTSC or not. I have to build a virtual desktop environment for an isolated network that is almost-but-not-quite a SCADA system. It's the monitoring and management bits, without the direct control. It's not ultra critical, but there's a strict uptime requirement, and a general preference for long-term service releases of everything where possible. Security and prevention of "data…
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#203Look at his list of terrible things in Windows, and compare to MacOS. Other than telemetry, MacOS is very similar: * no Cortana (MacOS has Siri on all systems) * no semiannual feature upgrades (Mac OS upgrades annually) * not a single tile on the default Start menu (UI difference, mostly personal taste) * telemetry can be set to 0 (the lowest level) (MacOS has some telemetry, although the specific amount is less, and…
PoSh can remove built in apps and apply a clean template start menu and pinned apps. With MDT this can be automated and a deployment completed in under half an hour. A power user may need to log in as a default admin, set things up, then create and use a secondary basic user account for their regular use (the Start menu/pinned app changes only apply to new users when pushed via PoSh).
I have a short list/folder of tools and scripts to start a new build with at home mostly built and tested for the MDT system I used to manage. It's pretty slick.
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Things get pushed on people, and most are not even aware enough for the question "do they care?" to even become meaningful. We're moving from sofware you run without any interference to subscription and surveillance models, and that's not because users want that, that's not "what they like", they don't have an easy way to get what they do like while also being treated ethically.
They have enough alternatives. Free alternatives at that! If they don’t switch, then that’s their choice and they are obviously fine with it. The whole “Windows telemetry bad” meme is mostly just an excuse for a flame war.
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Your choices include using Ubuntu or a similar system where the six month OS upgrade will break your system so badly you won't be able to work for days. Or Ubuntu LTS, where you only have to worry about things every five years (or two if you want to update). This is what is used by my local helpdesk, and things generally haven't been a problem from what I can tell.
LTS has its drawbacks. For years I had to work with Ubuntu 16.04 I had to compile my own vim and tmux to have features I want. I have no problem doing that as a developer but it's not a very good replacement experience for end users.
Also, are you doing it by hand? Have you looked at either pkgsrc or spark.io?
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#206This post recommends LTSC because it has been pre-de-crappified (e.e., no Candy Crush pre-installed). However in January 2020 Microsoft will not support Office 365 (ProPlus?) on LTSC. This is because the 'official' LTSC use case is for things like medical devices, and not "regular" desktops. It's just that many IT sites got tired of the Windows 10 what-a-mole with non-helpful features, phone home stuff, etc, that the…
I'm facing this decision right now. To LTSC or not. I have to build a virtual desktop environment for an isolated network that is almost-but-not-quite a SCADA system. It's the monitoring and management bits, without the direct control. It's not ultra critical, but there's a strict uptime requirement, and a general preference for long-term service releases of everything where possible. Security and prevention of "data…
Wait until DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) takes off so it will be impossible to have any visibility into the track.
Paul Vixie, no DNS dummy he, thinks DoH is really, really dumb and is totally against it AFAICT. He's okay with DNS-over-TLS because it's a more service specific protocol and not piggybacking over something else.
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#207I see a lot of angry posts like this, but fail to understand how it's reflected in reality in 2019—I agree that Windows 10 was a little messy at launch, but it's come a long way from where many of these complaints seem to stem from. Yeah, Windows has a bad rap, but in the last 2-4 years has come leaps and bounds from where it was—implementing great, thoughtfully designed features on a regular basis, for free. With WS…
A serious and legitimate gripe with windows is how messy it is to automate things. It's hard to look at the command prompt the same way I look at bash. I resort to almost anything other than batch when I can.
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You're trying a too hard to excuse customer-hostile behavior and it's embarrassing. That was rude. I’m telling it like I see it. Did I offend your favorite OS or corporation or something like that? Why get personal with me?? 1. OS updates had not been done through settings for a long, long time. However updates to Apples preinstalled applications are done through the App Store... Anyway, if it was OK for Apple to d…
You're playing some kind of game where me and others have to repeatedly explain things to you in detail, only for you to come up with yet another technicality to trip us up and waste our time. A significant amount of people view games like Candy Crush as crapware and those so-called icons as ads. There are articles from multiple reputable publications discussing how to turn off start menu ads. Some Microsoft-develope…
Anyway, as others have pointed out to you… Many many many people enjoy candy crush. Look it up pal :-)
Nothing, absolutely nothing that you’ve said to me has changed my view. Apple also puts crapware that I don’t want on my Mac and others in this thread have agreed with me. The fact that you don’t think it’s crapware has zero bearing on this conversation.
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
they don’t believe users should have a choice. Microsoft adds more telemetry in PowerShell 3: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/powershell/new-telemetry-in-p... And there is an opt out. Guess they do believe users should have a choice.
Guess again!
Section three, "How to opt out".
I guess the same way again.
Re: If you must run Windows 10
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has used Linux (with a few brief stints into macOS and BSD) for quite some time (since about 2012) coming from Windows before that, I don't understand the people who constantly defend Windows in these types of posts... In principle, the feature set that Windows 10 ships could be useful. I don't find it appealing personally, but if it works well for you then that's great. The issue that I have had is th…
Are you comparing Linux reliability to Windows? I have a Linux desktop and a laptop (Linux preinstalled) and resume from sleep works about 50% of the time (usually GPU driver crashed during resume). I've run normal updates that have broken the boot, or cause X to stop starting up. I get more nervous running updates on Linux than Windows. At work a guy changed the password on his LUKS volume and it hosed his entire en…
Funny enough as a Linux admin I feel the opposite. In Windows I'm using EventViewer and Procmon to try to dig through bullshit UIs to try to find events. Hell, lots of times Windows components and applications themselves are schizophrenic about how they log. Either zero logging, way too much logging, non-standard logging, or some other bullshit. Let me grep a text file or use a bpftrace instead!
> Windows is definitely more reliable as a daily driver than Linux, in my experience.
I support ~50 Linux desktops (you read that right) that are in use 24/7/365 and almost never have to intervene. If I do usually it's because of a change elsewhere that requires updates to a package (looking at you freerdp) or the Kernel needs to be updated. It's not out of the ordinary to see up times of months with no intervention required.
On the other hand I am touching the other ~40 W10 laptops multiple times a week.