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Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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At least you got to type your code. I had to write mine out on a whiteboard (actually, a patch of wall with whiteboard paint).

I went to an interview where there were no spare computers, so I was asked to write out a blackjack game in Java with pencil and paper. That was a lot worse than any of the whiteboard ones I've had.

Reminds me of programming tests at my college.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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No, this is a common misconception.

What specifically?

No company is ever entitled to work you do on your own time without using company resources, although it might get messy if said work directly competes with the company.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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Capital seems to need to keep relearning the message that Ford got loud and clear: Labor (aka consumers) is what buys output.

In aggregate yes, of course. It doesn’t have to be their labor though. I spend about 0.05% of my pre-tax salary at my company. If they gave me a $10K raise, they would expect to see an extra $5 in revenue per year; hardly compelling.

But the goodwill muliplier effect when you tell your mom and she brags to her friends who then apply pressure on there kids to apply there because they pay well. Friends, social groups, churches.. now those people are more likely to buy.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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I interviewed with AWS for an analyst/business intelligence engineer role. When asked to write a query to get the total GDP by month per country, I wrote a query along the lines of: select date_trunc('month',datecolumn) as month, country, sum(GDP) over (partition by date_trunc('month', datecolumn), country) FROM the_table order by 1 The interviewer asked me if I was missing something. I said no. "Don't you need an ad…

These things can always be childish when working with a bad interviewer. I once had an engineer keep interrupting me while I was explaining how sockets work because I wasn't covering small minutia details. Interviewing is an insane process. This is why building networks is more valuable so you're basically being interviewed by people you've already worked with.

> I once had an engineer keep interrupting me while I was explaining how sockets work because I wasn't covering small minutia details.

I'm going to be in trouble when it comes time to interview again someday. I am not nearly as accepting of muscle flexing (anti-social behavior) as I was 10 years ago.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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I interviewed with AWS for an analyst/business intelligence engineer role. When asked to write a query to get the total GDP by month per country, I wrote a query along the lines of: select date_trunc('month',datecolumn) as month, country, sum(GDP) over (partition by date_trunc('month', datecolumn), country) FROM the_table order by 1 The interviewer asked me if I was missing something. I said no. "Don't you need an ad…

Rather than be annoyed, you'd probably get bonus marks if you could show him the group-by query (sounds like you could have done that easily), then explain why your way is better. The interviewer would have been impressed at your maturity and skill.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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Every time I've talked to AWS Recruiters they've belittled by past experience and just generally made me feel bad about my career. I will never ever work there, no matter how cool their tech stack must be.

I can tell you from experience, the internal Amazon stack is not cool or inventive.

The best part of the internal Amazon stack is the relative consistency across the company. Not that every team is using the same thing, but it's a reasonable assumption that whatever particular combination of things you're using, someone else probably is too. It makes it really easy to work around the sharp corners present in any stack. Additionally, basically everything is internal-only or AWS, so the people who developed the tech stack are all just an internal search away.

That said, I've done just fine without that benefit since moving on.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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IIRC salaried workers at Amazon get 10 PTO days. This stops me from even applying. I wouldn't ever again consider less than 20, and really need a minumum of 25.

Wow, this is what passes for PTO at the fabled FAANG companies? I work for a small company in a non-tech field and salaried (exempt) employees start with 20 days of PTO and increase to 25 after 5 years. 10 days is pathetic.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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exit interview advice (applies everywhere): politely decline the exit interview. there is zero upside to doing an exit interview

Never had one, but I've also given no thoughts to them. What's the reason to decline?

Reason #1: Burning bridges.

Reason #2: You are helping a company for free, essentially after they have stopped paying you. A company with whom you no longer want a relationship.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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I once got offered a job in finance that was double my Netflix salary. I didn't take it because: 1) I'd have to live in NYC 2) I'd have to use their super locked down Windows machine. 3) I would only be allowed to talk to people in my department, and would never even be allowed to associate with the people making the trading algorithms, even though the job was to build them an infrastructure for back-testing their al…

Not every financial firm is that paranoid. Many are, though - i got offered a job in London that your description would fit perfectly! Still, i ended up working at a firm that's the polar opposite of that. I'll also disagree with you about money. Once you have enough to cover all your needs and few wants a year, more money starts to get interesting , because then it goes directly into building financial independence.…

> Once you have enough to cover all your needs and few wants a year, more money starts to get interesting, because then it goes directly into building financial independence.

I agree with you in theory, but even if you made $200,000 more a year than you need, how many years will you have to work at a crappy high paying job to save up enough to do any of those things?

The only way to build that kind of wealth is either getting lucky on some stock options, being rich to start, or being young enough where $100,000 will carry you for a couple of years.

Re: Why I Turned Down an AWS Job Offer

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Except the vast majority of your equity award, which itself makes up the vast majority of your total compensation at Amazon as an engineer, vests in your third and fourth years. Your first and second years you vest 5% and 15% (reportedly).

Being an intern is a huge bonus here. My wife got a decent equity grant under the terrible 5/15/../.. plan, but also a 20k cash bonus for each of the first two years for being a returning intern. This makes it very attractive to quit after two years, imo

And yet Facebook offered $50k for retuning interns on their first year. This was 5 years ago when I was an intern manager.
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