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Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by a_c_s » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 4:44 PM UTC

mgkimsal wrote: post #137

lloeki wrote: post #127

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Not complicated at all, it just requires an open mindset. Some tips: Customise it to your liking in the keyboard pref pane. You can press-and-drag on volume and brightness buttons of the collapsed control strip. No need to tap then slide. You can create services (now Quick Action ) in Automator and they show up with the Show Quick Actions setting set. Since services can be contextual (input+app) you can get creative…

What I CAN NOT do, however, is move the 'ESC' key (or any, really) all the way to the left. There's always a 'Touch ID'-size spacer on the left of the Touch Bar.

That spacer still activates the 'ESC' key

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by ativzzz » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 4:48 PM UTC

52-6F-62 wrote: post #178

bluedino wrote: post #168

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Swipe up on the trackpad and just pick your window. Better than alt-tabbing all over the place.

I use this all of the time. I love the trackpad workflow. Now—if you are using an external keyboard and don't have the magic trackpad, then it's a larger PITA. I have bound those commands to keys as well. So in my case I can swap workspaces by using CTRL+ and get that same view with CTRL+UP (but then still have to switch to mouse to select. I bought the apple trackpad recently because I prefer it that much—being able…

I use USB overdrive to bind the swipe up motion to one of the extra buttons on my mouse. I'm using a basic wireless ergonomic mouse. I have a magic trackpad but I absolutely hate it compared to a mouse.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by Phlarp » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:04 PM UTC

sq_ wrote: post #47

Phlarp wrote: post #42

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I'll plug another one: https://www.haptictouchbar.com/ This uses the trackpad haptic engine to (poorly) emulate a key click when pressing touchbar items. I'm unsure how they overlooked putting a haptic engine in the touchbar itself but it feels way too late to attempt to salvage now. They need a new keyboard that people will fall in love with.

Bringing back something that essentially matches the 2015 keyboard's characteristics would go a long way with most users, in my opinion.

"But then how will they make it thinner!?"

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by boringg » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:20 PM UTC

thomastruett wrote: post #57

Am I able to see both the app icons and the control keys at the same time like the screenshot ( https://pock.dev/assets/img/preview/pock_preview.png ) shows?

I was wondering the same thing - so far i can only get control keys or the app icons

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:59 PM UTC

52-6F-62 wrote: post #178

bluedino wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Swipe up on the trackpad and just pick your window. Better than alt-tabbing all over the place.

I use this all of the time. I love the trackpad workflow. Now—if you are using an external keyboard and don't have the magic trackpad, then it's a larger PITA. I have bound those commands to keys as well. So in my case I can swap workspaces by using CTRL+ and get that same view with CTRL+UP (but then still have to switch to mouse to select. I bought the apple trackpad recently because I prefer it that much—being able…

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Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by closetohome » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 6:43 PM UTC

zuppy wrote: post #94

i would recommend to take a look at https://goldenchaos.net/goldenchaos-btt.html too. it has the list of open apps and more (and it's highly configurable). it's not exactly the dock, though, but i find it more useful. it needs better touch tool ( https://folivora.ai ), but that's quite cheap for how much it offers.

I was hoping someone would recommend Better Touch Tool. It introduces a ton of customization and functionality to the Touch Bar, including 'live' buttons that I use to show things like outside temperature and (until it got depressing) current Bitcoin price.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by monkeynotes » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 6:52 PM UTC

canadaduane wrote: post #164

monkeynotes wrote: post #150

IMO cmd+tab is far superior since it requires less movement from the rest position. I can navigate contexts extremely efficiently. I also use cmd+~ a lot for in-app window switching. I do like the idea of having the touch-bar as a notification center though, that would be pretty helpful. I have my Macbook on a stand with an external keyboard. Besides being ergonomically better like that, I also missed the physical es…

I find that cmd+tab switching beyond 2 or 3 applications is not "superior" as it requires more recall of state than should be necessary. I've started using Alfred more often to switch to specific apps so that it doesn't matter where I'm coming "from" to get where I want to go "to." I also use Karibiner to switch the capslock key to "escape when pressed once" and "ctrl" when used in combination with any other key. Com…

I am not saying there are not better methods than cmd+tab, just 'for me' I feel it would be way better than reaching for a dock in the touch strip. Alfred is definitely very powerful and a lot of people have great workflow with it, I use a mix of both.

> it requires more recall of state

The state is right there in the display, same as it would be on the touch strip. You can either mouse to an icon or keep tabbing to it. Either way I haven't had to reach for the touch strip and interrupt my flow.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by 52-6F-62 » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 6:58 PM UTC

ativzzz wrote: post #202

52-6F-62 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use this all of the time. I love the trackpad workflow. Now—if you are using an external keyboard and don't have the magic trackpad, then it's a larger PITA. I have bound those commands to keys as well. So in my case I can swap workspaces by using CTRL+ and get that same view with CTRL+UP (but then still have to switch to mouse to select. I bought the apple trackpad recently because I prefer it that much—being able…

I use USB overdrive to bind the swipe up motion to one of the extra buttons on my mouse. I'm using a basic wireless ergonomic mouse. I have a magic trackpad but I absolutely hate it compared to a mouse.

I'll check that out—thanks.

That said I love the magic trackpad already. To each their own!

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by lloeki » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 7:05 PM UTC

a_c_s wrote: post #201

mgkimsal wrote: post #137

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What I CAN NOT do, however, is move the 'ESC' key (or any, really) all the way to the left. There's always a 'Touch ID'-size spacer on the left of the Touch Bar.

That spacer still activates the 'ESC' key

Indeed the ESC button is much wider than it appears to be.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by Crontab » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 7:49 PM UTC

a_c_s wrote: post #201

mgkimsal wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I CAN NOT do, however, is move the 'ESC' key (or any, really) all the way to the left. There's always a 'Touch ID'-size spacer on the left of the Touch Bar.

That spacer still activates the 'ESC' key

That's correct. I am currently considering upgrading from my 13" 2013 Macbook Air to a 15" 2019 Macbook Pro (I want it for the IPS/bigger display) and I noticed this while I was testing it at Bestbuy.

Personally, if I make the purchase, I will probably just remap the Caps Lock key to ESC - assuming I can remove ESC from the Touch Bar.

The one thing I didn't care for is that the Touch Bar display can time out. I would personally prefer that it stay on - or at least have the option of it staying on.