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Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
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Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you disable a tool which you know is used to build many websites nowadays then you really should expect a deprecated experience. You're in the minority and honestly I don't know why you should expect web developers to cater for you.
First, as a person who makes web sites and apps, I believe it's unprofessional to fail to account for users who can't or won't run JS. JS abuse is rampant. I choose not to let sites run JS by default because I don't trust most sites not to have some sort of compromise or malware. Second, it's fine with me if some site wants to forgo my patronage, or provide "a deprecated experience", but not the government. I certain…
>First, as a person who makes web sites and apps, I believe it's unprofessional to fail to account for users who can't or won't run JS. JS abuse is rampant.
If you do web for a living, you should also know that fallbacks and graceful degradation and server-side rendering all come with a cost. Both monetarily and in terms of complexity.
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#203Before I submit a bug report-- is there a good reason that the zero isn't dotted in this font? For example, executive order numbers have both "O" and "0" appearing in them. But I'm sure there are stronger examples in various gov't depts. where those characters can occur in sequence and create errors. Not to mention any code snippets that already appear in government web sites. I suppose the extra ink could be a conce…
I’m wondering that myself. It makes a BIG difference to me when strings appear out of context. With zeros and Os together it can be very confusing, and the dot or slash makes a big difference.
It's even more confusing WITOUT the O and 0 together... Then you have no way to see which one is slimmer
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows does not have crap font rendering, Windows has advanced hinting support that varies by typeface and is infinitely customizable. Other operating systems apply a global hinting that typically discards the font designer's own preferences for how the font should look (especially at smaller scales). Fonts without that manual hinting look like crap on Windows because Windows does not force through its own rendering…
I don't think I've seen a single typeface that actually looks good on Windows 8 or later, though. Even Linux does a better job (with or without subpixel rendering). Maybe I just haven't viewed enough fonts on recent Windows versions to have encountered the better examples, though; are there any fonts (to your knowledge) that do look especially good on Windows (and/or better than they do on macOS or a FreeType-using U…
https://abload.de/img/tmpxwk2y.png this is Verdana on Windows.
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#205Sans is overused. Please do not use (or carefully consider before using) sans fonts for long blocks of text you expect people to read.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soYKFWqVVzg#t=34m53s "I disagree, I like sans [for long prose] better" comments miss the point; this is not an anecdata competition, it's about how many people prefer each one (and also it would be worth considering how strongly they hold that pr…
Web sites should really use the user's preference and not override with either serif or sans serif (size too). HTML has a presentation freedom for a reason.
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you disable a tool which you know is used to build many websites nowadays then you really should expect a deprecated experience. You're in the minority and honestly I don't know why you should expect web developers to cater for you.
First, as a person who makes web sites and apps, I believe it's unprofessional to fail to account for users who can't or won't run JS. JS abuse is rampant. I choose not to let sites run JS by default because I don't trust most sites not to have some sort of compromise or malware. Second, it's fine with me if some site wants to forgo my patronage, or provide "a deprecated experience", but not the government. I certain…
While I agree with you that most if not all sites should offer some sort of no JavaScript fallback, the development resources required to offer such a thing is just generally unpractical when it's such a small minority of users. Government or not, they still have to choose between spending their limited departmental resources on an extremely small minority, or the greater userbase as a whole.
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
First, as a person who makes web sites and apps, I believe it's unprofessional to fail to account for users who can't or won't run JS. JS abuse is rampant. I choose not to let sites run JS by default because I don't trust most sites not to have some sort of compromise or malware. Second, it's fine with me if some site wants to forgo my patronage, or provide "a deprecated experience", but not the government. I certain…
While I agree with you that most if not all sites should offer some sort of no JavaScript fallback, the development resources required to offer such a thing is just generally unpractical when it's such a small minority of users. Government or not, they still have to choose between spending their limited departmental resources on an extremely small minority, or the greater userbase as a whole.
By that same argument, we don't need to worry about accessibility.
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#208Arial's always looked fine to me... I don't know why this wheel needs to keep being reinvented.
Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#209Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display
#210Arial's always looked fine to me... I don't know why this wheel needs to keep being reinvented.
Aesthetics and flaws aside, Arial is a proprietary font.