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Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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Looks like you're covered for both summer and winter. Smart move.

Thanks. Montreal I don't like to talk about because (I believe) it's the most underrated city in North America. Don't go - you'll fall in love!

Don't go now or you'll fall flat on your face walking on the sidewalk. So much ice. SO MUCH.

But yeah, cool city.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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I'm gonna offer a slightly different perspective: SV isn't that nice, and it's not worth the price premium. There is a distinct lack of culture, of nightlife, of arts and humanities - even in San Francisco. We're a mediocre land of strip malls and suburbs masquerading as an international destination. Go to any other city and tell me that it's not MORE vibrant (Chicago, LA, NYC, Miami, Austin, Portland, Seattle, Houst…

The price premium you are paying, especially for housing, is really all about raising kids e.g. sending them to some of the best (albeit pressure-filled) public schools in the country all while keeping your high paying SV jobs. Basically assume that the quality of public SV schools are high enough that high earning parents are "OK" sending their kids to those schools rather than paying for private school. If you have…

> sending them to some of the best (albeit pressure-filled) public schools in the country

Nope.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-public-high-schools/

Gunn just misses the top 20, PA just misses the top 50. Everything else is further down, and those are expensive places to live even by SV standards. Several states/areas, notably IL, do much better for a fraction of the cost. My daughter attends #56, in what is considered an expensive town hereabouts, and that's still about 1/3 what I'd pay to live in SV.

Those are fine schools, but if you're paying SV prices for the sake of your kids' education, you're making a bad choice.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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>I just started working at Google and it wasn't everything I had hoped This person just graduated college. This is a wildly unremarkable piece of writing about a widely discussed issue, and the author has no unique insight into the problem. The sanctimony of repeating "This is Silicon Valley" over and over as if this pedestrian blogpost carries the weight of an MLK speech is just silly. Yes, life can be disappointing…

I liked it for the perspective of someone who grew up here, went to Silicon Valley elementary and high schools, saw the toll the culture took on her peers. Then left for college and came back for work. I think that perspective: "I should love this place, it's home, but damn is it broken" is valuable. Maybe more for me than you- I'm raising 2 daughters here.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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>I just started working at Google and it wasn't everything I had hoped This person just graduated college. This is a wildly unremarkable piece of writing about a widely discussed issue, and the author has no unique insight into the problem. The sanctimony of repeating "This is Silicon Valley" over and over as if this pedestrian blogpost carries the weight of an MLK speech is just silly. Yes, life can be disappointing…

While it may not live up to your editorial standards, it's clearly resonating with this audience. Maybe attack the ideas and not the structure / style of the piece? It has nothing to do with the author "finding meaning." It's critiquing an overpriced, socially bankrupt culture and area, and the toll that can take on mental health and happiness.

I'm sure the people who live their wouldn't call their culture "bankrupt"

Such a critique shows more about you and your inflated sense of yourself than anything else.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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I often think back to this obviously first coffee date I came across one weekend at Red Rock in Mountain View. The woman came in, she's dressed nice, walks in with confidence, and finds her date, who is dressed like a schlub wearing a faded free company t-shirt, and couldn't even bother to comb his hair. If I was her, there wouldn't have been a second date.

Oh. My. God. I thought I was the only one. This will probably go over most heads here, but man - the way people DRESS, particularly men, is staggeringly bad. Hysterically awful. I've seen this same situation before as well. Here's a hint - don't wear anything with your company logo on it unless you're at a company event. You're welcome.

Can somebody give some additional perspective on this? I'm flabbergasted by how snobbish and shallow this post appears to be - but perhaps I just can't picture what kind of clothing a person has to wear to deserve such treatment?

*Disclaimer: I have no experience with silicon valley.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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Its a rant but I'm also surprised at how she writes "people's perfect life". Whats perfect about San Francisco, that has such a low demographic representation of family, the city is super dirty, people live with 6 figure salaries live in terrible housing conditions. Maybe google gets to shelter their employees from a lot of the cruft of SF, but walk 2 blocks away from the google offices in SF and you'll get yelled at…

I also look at this as - individuals have so much wealth, along with these companies, yet no one is doing a single fucking thing to help the homeless. Facebook and Google could reverse their negative PR so quickly if they actually put some money meaningfully toward the problem, not into fake tax shelters for their founders.

It would probably be illegal for facebook and google to run a homeless shelter in san francisco. The city would never allow such a thing to happen, because they want first-right to spend.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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Oh. My. God. I thought I was the only one. This will probably go over most heads here, but man - the way people DRESS, particularly men, is staggeringly bad. Hysterically awful. I've seen this same situation before as well. Here's a hint - don't wear anything with your company logo on it unless you're at a company event. You're welcome.

Can somebody give some additional perspective on this? I'm flabbergasted by how snobbish and shallow this post appears to be - but perhaps I just can't picture what kind of clothing a person has to wear to deserve such treatment? *Disclaimer: I have no experience with silicon valley.

Deserve what treatment? No one was being rude, quite the contrary. But impressions matter, and no one deserves a second date. Or conversely, no one deserves a bad date, let alone a second.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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I didn't take the original article the way you described it, and I don't think there's anything wrong with the "I'm done" attitude. Nobody is obligated to fight all the battles all the time to begin with, and beyond that, speaking out and voting with one's feet is an effective way to cause change. To gauge effectiveness, think this way: what would happen if everyone in her position did the same thing? Most certainly…

You accused GP of taking mental health issues too lightly. I reiterated their point of how the tone of this article rubs people the wrong way. I'm not shaming anyone, just as the GP here isn't taking mental health issues lightly either. Again, nobody is saying these issues are to be taken lightly, or that anyone is obligated to solve them (that's part of the false trichotomy I talked about). Please stop accusing peop…

>You accused GP of taking mental health issues too lightly.

Excuse me, but I did not make that accusation anywhere.I asked them to exhibit some empathy, as I do you.

>Please stop accusing people and projecting these straw men.

Indeed.

>I'm not shaming anyone

You mocked and called the author narcissistic for saying what she did. That is shaming.

>(that's part of the false trichotomy I talked about).

Well, could you at least tell what the three parts that make it are?

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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Oh. My. God. I thought I was the only one. This will probably go over most heads here, but man - the way people DRESS, particularly men, is staggeringly bad. Hysterically awful. I've seen this same situation before as well. Here's a hint - don't wear anything with your company logo on it unless you're at a company event. You're welcome.

You're not necessarily wrong, just condescending. I'm still going to wear sneakers, t-shirts, and a puffy because it's dramatically more comfortable than dress shirts and leather shoes. I can know I'm dressing poorly and still choose to do it... company logo is another story - that one escapes me

Nothing wrong with sneakers and jeans + a tee provided they fit and the sneakers aren’t “dad sneakers” read: White new balances or god forbid saucony or brooks running shoes.

Re: This Is Silicon Valley

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I think it's more professional not to encourage talking about politics at work. It is unrelated to your job and is more likely to divide people than bring everyone together, unless the author would be happy if someone said they didn't care or disagreed with whatever issues they are passionate about.

Obviously there is a plethora of reasons to not talk politics at work, but is "unrelated to your job" really one of them? I can't think of a single major startup who's success and direction are not directly influenced by the political landscape. Perhaps your mindset is employees should just do tasks assigned and not be interested or vested in their work and companies raison d'etre (assuming it's more then just making…

No, I don’t want to talk about politics. If there is a specific issue or bill that will affect our business directly, then sure. But I don’t want to get worked up about politics when what we need to do is succeed as a business.
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