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The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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> This isn't even getting into the actual value of perceived value (cf. the sticker price of wine vs. its perceived quality). Really interesting stuff. I fall foul of this trick quite a lot when food shopping. For example if I'm buying a box of cereals and I see one is priced at £1.80 and another is priced at £2.50 but is on sale from £3.50 I'll buy the more expensive one because I'm under the illusion that I'm getti…

Thankfully in some European country food must be sold with a clear indication of the "real" cost per KG

Canada does this, but often products are sold per kg, lb, or 100g. Frequently, different tiers of quality are sold in different units, so comparison shopping is that much more tedious. And the 100g thing is especially pernicious -- all too often, a first glance indicates a 50% discount that careful examination shows to be a 5x markup!

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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I thought it was known as BOGOF?

Payless Shoes is particularly egregious -- they have huge signs that say "BOGO" but then the fine print says... "buy one get one half-off." And their employees are apparently trained to say "buy one get one" until you arrive at the till.

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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What makes this really interesting is how living in an economy where prices are both set by the seller and non-negotiable causes consumers to equate asking price with value. As a consequence, BOGO feels like a better deal than one item at 50% off MSRP. A 50% discount is a change in the asking price; the value of this item must have depreciated in some way for the seller to want to get rid of it (e.g., this garment is…

> This isn't even getting into the actual value of perceived value (cf. the sticker price of wine vs. its perceived quality). Really interesting stuff. I fall foul of this trick quite a lot when food shopping. For example if I'm buying a box of cereals and I see one is priced at £1.80 and another is priced at £2.50 but is on sale from £3.50 I'll buy the more expensive one because I'm under the illusion that I'm getti…

That does depend as often own label products are often much much worse. -

We recently had some Tesco own label sausages substituted for higher cost branded ones and the Tesco ones where vile and unedible.

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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I feel that there is a wealth/background effect here that could be studied somewhat too. I think people who don't have to worry about money are less likely to pay any attention to discounts and deals. Having come from a council estate, there is a certain mindset behind getting a deal for everything, making your little money go as far as possible, buy one get one free, or discounts on anything, or coupons to get into…

And its not like that most of the west could actually do with eating less food but higher quality food

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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I don't have hard numbers to quote on this, but I'm very convinced that you end up paying more in the end. From my own experience and pretty much every one I talk about this, people have a tendency to buy things they'll never need. (I constantly try not to do that, but it takes active thinking about it all the time.) No discount deal is cheaper than the one where you don't buy something you don't need. Then there's u…

A long running promotion in Tesco is 3 bottles of any brand beer for £5.25. I can't imagine anyone ever goes into a store with the intention of buying 3 bottles but if you just buy 2 you're misguided into thinking you'll lose out. In reality, you're spending more and drinking more than you really want to.

Works out ok at my local supermarket on the three bottles of Guinness deal they do.

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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I tend to make a conscious effort to ignore "deals". As far as I know, the one case in which a deal is actually advantageous as a consumer is when that deal encourages consumers to buy more of a certain product at the same time, and the merchant passing part of the scale and predictability savings on to the consumer. For example, if you buy tooth paste every now and then anyway, buying it at the same time as many oth…

there's a tactic called a loss leader where the merchant has a discount and sells a product at a loss to get people into the store (and hopefully buy other things that make them a profit). Loss leaders are pretty hard to spot unless you actually know the normal retail price

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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> Most online clothing brands offer ‘free’ shipping, with the catch that you have to meet a minimum purchase amount (often $100) to qualify. Some 58% of consumers will add additional items to their cart — often things they didn’t originally intend to purchase — just to “save” $5 to $10 on handling fees. You will find people vigorously defending their behaviour when challenged on this. For example: Amazon Prime. Amazo…

Your not counting the value you get from prime video I saved on buying all 5 season of arrow on dvd for example or the expanse which has just come out.

I don't always use prime delivery but I still come out ahead.

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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Tangentailly related; i recently needed to buy a new shirt, where in the past, i had shopped at Express for some work shirts - but havent been in their store in several years - i went in as they were having a 40% off store wide. Their shirts, which i used to have dozens of - are now priced at $69 per shirt... less 40% for this sale. Ive never paid $69 for one of their shirts in the past. So the 40% off now reflects w…

And banana republic now sells hoodies with a list price of $130, presumable because they’re perpetually running 30% to 60% off sales.

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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I quite enjoy mentally parsing these "offers" in logically equivalent ways. E.g., "buy one get one free" as "only sold in units of two" or even "each purchase of one requires compulsory purchase of a second". As a child I remember considering the difference between "extra free" and "free" which I used to see on cereal boxes. Sometimes the box claimed "10% free!" but other sneakier boxes would claim "10% extra free!".…

BOGO does not always mean "only sold in units of two". Sometimes retailers, like my grocer, will just halve the price of a single item if it's BOGO.

Every time my dad takes something to the till and they say "this is actually on buy-one-get-one-free" he says "can I just have the free one?". Every. Time.

Re: The shady economics of ‘buy one, get one free’ deals

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> and yet people will defend their spending saying that they are "saving" money I've never seen Prime as a purely money-saving scheme. It possibly does save me a bit overall (but not every month, for sure) on the things I genuinely want next day, but I also get the convenience of weekend delivery which either isn't available or is very expensive without Prime (from Amazon or other options), or certain drop-site deliv…

> Is paying for convenience inherently wrong in your world view? I was channelling the spirit of the article. But for me it's not that something is convenient on it's own, it's 2 things. Firstly, it's that it's shady and manipulative and that people will defend this when challenged by saying "oh it's okay I don't like to think about it, it's convenient". Secondly because a BOGO offer (or Amazon Prime) lowers the cogn…

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