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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by vtange »

whatshisface wrote: post #181

A while ago, some posts on HN went around saying that you shouldn't use third-world TLDs for your startup because some of them are unreliable stewards who would put your domain at risk. Does registering a .dev domain make you dependent on Google in the same way that registering a .ly makes you dependent on Libya?

There was this one guy who lost a valuable Twitter handle due to him using his custom domain email (via GoDaddy) as a login email.[0] I'd like to think imagine Google is better than GoDaddy when it comes to security and fighting social-engineering attacks but who knows. But if Google is a weak link wouldn't that also mean all our gmails are not as safe as we think?

[0] https://medium.com/@N/how-i-lost-my-50-000-twitter-username-...

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by shereadsthenews »

fgkramer wrote: post #160
shereadsthenews wrote: post #104

What will you build on .dev? A site so broken that it still has a horizontal scrollbar no matter how wide the browser window.

Are you on a mac? 99% of times it's because of an external mouse connected. edit: the css for the element that overflows has: `grid-template-columns: 50vw 50vw;` and based on the spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#viewport-relative-lengths , scrollbars are not taken into account, therefore as long as you have a _forced_ scrollbar, the content WILL overflow regardless of your screen size. By forced I mean a scro…

I think the fact that you tried to blame my peripheral devices says a lot about the state of web dev today.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by dehrmann »

When in doubt, racketeer.

I've been annoyed by how Google uses Adwords for a while; suppose you're company in a competitive, undifferentiated space. I just searched for "enterprise rental cars," and the first thing below the search box, an ad, was for getaround.com. The second was an ad for Enterprise, the third was the organic result for Enterprise. Google is effectively telling these companies "You wouldn't want someone to happen to see a competitor first and click them when they search for them, would you? Then pay up." That's a racket.

Same with this. They're inventing the demand for this TLD, then telling developers to pay up if they don't want someone to take their name.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by dcplogic »

whatshisface wrote: post #181

A while ago, some posts on HN went around saying that you shouldn't use third-world TLDs for your startup because some of them are unreliable stewards who would put your domain at risk. Does registering a .dev domain make you dependent on Google in the same way that registering a .ly makes you dependent on Libya?

I trust Google a heck more (to stay around and honor contracts) than I trust Libya.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by byuu »

pluc wrote: post #12

The .dev TLD worked fine before it was bought. Now we have to use .test or .local. I don't get what Google thinks they'll get out of sponsoring putting sites under development online.

.test also works, but I like .dev more, so I have and continue to use .dev via hosts file (edit: hearing Firefox is doing the .dev HSTS preload as well, that's very disappointing to hear.)

I do wish /etc/hosts accepted wildcards, though. It can be a touch annoying having to add a new rule every time I create a new subdomain.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by ebg13 »

unilynx wrote: post #22

120KB of javascript and still the accordion doesn't open on OSX Safari.

You may get a kick out of this...

Google Support

12:53 PM Thank you for contacting Google Domains. My name is and I'll be happy to assist you. Let me quickly read your notes here.

12:54 PM Hi there

12:54 PM How are you?

12:54 PM Hi. I'm trying to read your website but it's broken in one of the dominant web browsers in the world.

12:54 PM Hi you said that the link https://domains.google/tld/dev/ doesn't work on Safari?

12:55 PM The accordion links are broken.

12:55 PM Have you tried in Chrome already though or maybe a private window in Safari already?

12:55 PM "Is this a one-time payment? Will I still need to pay $12 every year to keep my domain?" click (nothing happens)

12:55 PM It's just maybe a cache

12:56 PM It's not just a cache

12:57 PM Alright but have you tried other browsers maybe?

12:57 PM I've checked it here and the link you sent works just fine

12:57 PM Did you test in the latest Safari on the latest macOS? Because it doesn't work fine.

12:57 PM Sorry, not using Mac

12:58 PM But we'll look into it if we get feed backs similarly

12:59 PM We apologize for the inconvenience but please take a look into it on a different browser like Chrome for the time being

12:59 PM here are other reports https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178833

12:59 PM Oh alright thank you

1:00 PM Let me check that

1:04 PM We are already looking into it

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by [deleted] »

whatshisface wrote: post #181

A while ago, some posts on HN went around saying that you shouldn't use third-world TLDs for your startup because some of them are unreliable stewards who would put your domain at risk. Does registering a .dev domain make you dependent on Google in the same way that registering a .ly makes you dependent on Libya?

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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by dmitriid »

the_duke wrote: post #196
dmitriid wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every bad web dev bitches about it. There's nothing about Safari that makes it "the new IE8". Ironically, the very same HN that bemoans every new thing as "why should devs jump onto this shiny new things, just slow down already" criticises Safari for not jumping onto every new thing.

It's not so much jumping on new things, it's implementing accepted features which has slowed down very considerably since the Blink fork. Google was really carrying a big part of the webkit development.

> it's implementing accepted features

Define "accepted". Hastily implemented and shoved down everyone's throat by Chrome doesn't mean "accepted".

> Google was really carrying a big part of the webkit development.

Nope. Google is dominating the development space with utter disregard for public/dev opinion.

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