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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by kilbuz »

sephoric wrote: post #9
techntoke wrote: post #7

This isn't self-hosted? I'm interested in a self-hosted solution that uses local markdown files and directories to manage content.

This is one thing I've wanted. A local app that lets me store all my data with markdown syntax, syntax highlighting, in local files and directories, specifically for macOS although a cross platform app would be fine. One that doesn't require an account or the internet at all for it to work. I've wanted this kind of app for many years (and wouldn't be opposed to making it if no existing solution is all that great at i…

Seconded that org-mode sounds like a good place to start.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by kevinlou »

mosselman wrote: post #167

Notion is great in features, but it is just so slow and I find the editor hard to work with. Text doesn't flow nicely and it is clumsy to navigate between blocks. Some blocks are editable, some are stuck, etc. It is pretty hard. The speed gets me the most though. Maybe the website is actually better than the electron app, I always use the electron app.

Block navigation is definitely clumsy (maddeningly so), but I haven't had any issues with it being slow. Are you working with a lot of data on a single page?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by johnzimmerman »

throwaway382 wrote: post #144
ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

It looks like they use FullStory, so employees can probably see everything you're doing. I'd be surprised if they were recording without ever watching the recordings. (FullStory records what you do in your browser. It records all DOM elements, so all your data is being recorded and sent to a 3rd party.)

You can opt out of Fullstory tracking here > https://www.fullstory.com/optout/

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by spatz »

tommoor wrote: post #194

If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - http://getoutline.com We've been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.

Looks awesome! Any plans for mobile apps?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by chooseaname »

I love this.

Slightly OT, but does anyone have some links to open source apps / tutorials from creating pages that are fairly free form like this? I'm a backend kind of entity, so the front end is a mystery.

Edit: I'm not asking in an "I'm going to make my own" kind of way. I'm asking in an "I've always been curious how other devs solve problems / create things" kind of way.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by zerkten »

bunderbunder wrote: post #197
ymolodtsov wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enterprise is the key word here. Much more companies care about having control over their infrastructure. As for Notion, I guess even on Hacker News only a small share of users would care enough.

It's possibly something many of us should care more about, though. Suppose your company handles a fair bit of confidential information, and some of that information ends up in Notion as part of your general project management workflow. Now you've got to worry about Notion experiencing a data breach, and whether or not that breach could get you in hot water with your clients, or even into legal trouble. With on-prem o…

> It's possibly something many of us should care more about, though.

Definitely, but I'd argue that even with containers etc., we don't yet have the capabilities to make what we know is right, as easy to operate as SaaS.

> Suppose your company handles a fair bit of confidential information, and some of that information ends up in Notion as part of your general project management workflow.

Many folks that post to HN seem to miss this even though they are probably very technically capable. Many IT people in small/medium organizations don't have the time to consider this. Sometimes relationships with big organizations force this reality and threats get addressed, but it's not the norm. Most IT managers are under pressure to cut costs, reduce staff, modify accounting (review vs capital budgets), coexist with shadow IT, etc. Cloud solutions seem fantastic to them, and they don't have the energy to fight with someone in marketing who introduces a rogue solution because they don't understand how the current Wiki works.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by dawnerd »

deusuxmachina wrote: post #80
komali2 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a good feature - I think the app is trying to replace current jira etc functionality for now, is that something that Jira and other offer?

jira offers task linking, which I don't think notion does.

Notion does but it's not well implemented. If you copy a link to a notion document and paste it in another it does create a link. Wish they made it a little more well defined though (I don't want to copy a link and paste it).

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by justinclift »

dkarbayev wrote: post #118
owenwil wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a reason nobody really does this: there's just no money in it. Nylas mail is a good example of this: it offered the ability to self-run it and pay them for the license, but nobody really did. I wonder what they would need to charge to make it feasible? $1000 a year? It makes me pretty sad, but it's just such a distraction for a company of Notion's size and stage.

Well, then we should create open-source analog of notion. I actually was itching wondering what could I create in OSS realm. Probably will have a look at this task :)

Further down the page there's a mention of an OSS equivalent ("Outline"):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18906118

Haven't tried it out personally (only support signing in from Slack/Google), but it might be your kind of thing. :)

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by benjlang »

ddlec wrote: post #146
benjlang wrote: post #12

I'm a big Notion fan. Use it for everything in my life, both work and personal. Here's a screenshot of my Notion homepage: https://twitter.com/benln/status/1034475232445181952 I also made this site for people to share their Notion pages: http://notionpages.com You can use that to get a better sense of use cases for Notion.

I see that your site only includes screenshots of Notion pages. Have you considered asking people to share Markdown exports of their pages as well?

Some have templates. Hoping Notion releases clone feature soon. Didn't know you could export markdown, will look into that.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by kjksf »

perfunctory wrote: post #192

Has anybody compared it with coda.io?

I have.

Don't get me wrong: Coda looks like a fantastic product. It also has features that Notion doesn't have, like built-in support for charts inside the document.

If there was no Notion, I would give it a serious try.

But Notion just fits my use case better.

The biggest difference is that Code is like Google docs on steroids: the UI is structured as a collection of separate documents. Which makes perfect sense in an enterprise scenario.

Notion is hierarchical. It's just an infinitely nested collection of pages.

It makes for a different (and for me vastly superior) user experience.

But ultimately both products have free tiers so you should try them both to see which fits your use cases better.

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