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Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by cmsimike »

happymellon wrote: post #197
TanakaTarou wrote: post #183

What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…

How can I test Edge when Microsoft don't release it for Mac and Linux? A browser for a single OS? Talk about monoculture.

http://modern.ie Free Windows VirtualBox images you can use for testing!

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by baggsie »

happymellon wrote: post #197
TanakaTarou wrote: post #183

What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…

How can I test Edge when Microsoft don't release it for Mac and Linux? A browser for a single OS? Talk about monoculture.

The same way you test safari on a Win or Linux machine?

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by newuser6969 »

Solar19 wrote: post #200

This reminds me that I think there's a real market opportunity for a clean-sheet proprietary browser . Everyone just assumes open source (except for Safari and Edge until now). I think it's possible to build a significantly better browser than Chrome or anything else out there. And I think at least a few million people would pay more than $100 for it (there are 326 million people in the US alone). This would be a goo…

I wouldn't touch a proprietary browser if you paid me $100

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by happymellon »

Osiris wrote: post #196
jccalhoun wrote: post #23

As a firefox fax, I hope this isn't true. The dominance of chrome isn't good for anyone. This will lead to (even more) sites not bothering to be made compatible with Firefox. We are headed back to the "designed for IE" days.

It's interesting, I don't see this argument made against other open source projects that are dominant, such as the Linux kernel. I rarely see people saying that there need to be competing kernel projects with completely separate code bases but all trying to conform to the same ABI, etc. (Yes, I know there are other kernels out there, but my point is that people don't complain that Linux is so dominant like they do ab…

Dominant on server or generally? Windows is pretty big generally, and it isn't obscure enough on servers that I don't have to deal with vendors daily who require me to inter-operate with windows.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by 1ris »

Solar19 wrote: post #200

This reminds me that I think there's a real market opportunity for a clean-sheet proprietary browser . Everyone just assumes open source (except for Safari and Edge until now). I think it's possible to build a significantly better browser than Chrome or anything else out there. And I think at least a few million people would pay more than $100 for it (there are 326 million people in the US alone). This would be a goo…

Maybe 1$. There is Vivaldi. Its much better, but nobody wants to pay.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by Osiris »

With so many browsers using Blink/V8, couldn't it be argued that an independent foundation should be created to take over the project so that no company (Google) controls the code? Each browser can then implement their fork / skin of the rendering engine / V8. It could even allow the foundation to experiment with larger changes how Mozilla has done with it's rust-based renderer.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by baby »

Microsoft please, can we have the tabs on the side by default? There is a lot of vertical space that is unused and it is a thousand times more practical to have tabs there on the left or on the right. Try Tree Style Tabs for a week on Firefox and you will understand why it is the future of browsing the web.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by alwillis »

nikkwong wrote: post #94
fourthark wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How was it broken? I only tested visualization stuff on it but it seemed to work pretty well. Honestly asking...

It just depends on how far you're trying to push these browsers. Chrome has a lot of crazy cutting edge APIs which allow amazing developer and therefore user experiences. For example, IntersectionObserver, which allows developers to know when a part of a page is active, and respond accordingly; Safari doesn't even implement IntersectionObserver, even though it's been a standardized spec since like 2013. It might seem…

Intersection Observer is being developed for Safari/WebKit: https://webkit.org/status/#?search=intersection

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by happymellon »

samspenc wrote: post #90
jccalhoun wrote: post #23

As a firefox fax, I hope this isn't true. The dominance of chrome isn't good for anyone. This will lead to (even more) sites not bothering to be made compatible with Firefox. We are headed back to the "designed for IE" days.

My understanding is that they'll be using the Chromium engine underneath, but still their own Edge "browser" and UI on top. IMHO, I personally think it's a good thing to consolidate on one engine to render HTML cross-platform for these two reasons: 1. Web developers no longer need to worry about supporting CSS and other edge-cases across various browser engines. 2. The Chromium engine itself is open source. There are…

Which is a shame, because it is the interface that is one of the worst aspects of Edge.

Not that I know that well, my work that forces my Windows usage still makes me use IE.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by Osiris »

happymellon wrote: post #204
Osiris wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting, I don't see this argument made against other open source projects that are dominant, such as the Linux kernel. I rarely see people saying that there need to be competing kernel projects with completely separate code bases but all trying to conform to the same ABI, etc. (Yes, I know there are other kernels out there, but my point is that people don't complain that Linux is so dominant like they do ab…

Dominant on server or generally? Windows is pretty big generally, and it isn't obscure enough on servers that I don't have to deal with vendors daily who require me to inter-operate with windows.

I see your point. I suppose I was thinking the dominant open source kernel.
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